bribri988 141 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 just a quick one just wanted to know how you work warrens as i see all people doing it all diffrent ways. do you leave the dog to work the warren or do you slip him/them? do you not use dogs and just net up? or do you use dogs but still net up? or do you do it diffrent agen would like your info on how you do things. no reason really just intrested thanks peeps Quote Link to post
mattydski 560 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 For me it depends on the experience/style of the dog.... My older bitch works unaided on the warrens, she decides what to run, and where to wait....... she never disturbs nets etc... My young bitch is held back and slipped....but here style may alter as she gets older.... Whether or not we use nets depends on where we are ferreting... cover...no cover.... pest control.....or fun... Quote Link to post
bribri988 141 Posted August 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 For me it depends on the experience/style of the dog.... My older bitch works unaided on the warrens, she decides what to run, and where to wait....... she never disturbs nets etc... My young bitch is held back and slipped....but here style may alter as she gets older.... Whether or not we use nets depends on where we are ferreting... cover...no cover.... pest control.....or fun... yer i leave my whippet to work the warren his self and he works it well without messing the nets up or missing runs sometimes he picks the right hole and the rabbit doesnt even get the chance to run, straight in and out rabbit in mouth and to hand Quote Link to post
Guest Leveller Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 If you are slipping a dog on bolted rabbits you aren't ferreting and you certainly don't own a ferreting dog. If you can't leave the lead at home then leave the dog at home because that thing is a hindrance not a helper. 3 Quote Link to post
mattydski 560 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 If you are slipping a dog on bolted rabbits you aren't ferreting and you certainly don't own a ferreting dog. If you can't leave the lead at home then leave the dog at home because that thing is a hindrance not a helper. if you cant enjoy your sport how you choose...........give up...its not a science .. 3 Quote Link to post
derbylad1 293 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 If you have a dog on a slip/lead then the dog is not ferreting. If you hold your dog back, how will it learn the ropes and become that good ferreting dog. If it always on the lead when the ferret is down below, it wont learn to mark, when a bolt is expected and a load of other things. If it does get in the way and knocks the nets....then teach it not to. 4 Quote Link to post
The one 8,579 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 After the bitch has marked the warren she just does her own thing apart from the odd NETS or DEAD thats all you hear Quote Link to post
Guest Leveller Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 If you are slipping a dog on bolted rabbits you aren't ferreting and you certainly don't own a ferreting dog. If you can't leave the lead at home then leave the dog at home because that thing is a hindrance not a helper. if you cant enjoy your sport how you choose...........give up...its not a science .. We'll have to agree to disagree on that one, the last thing I want to be doing is holding a dog on a lead whilst out ferreting the dog is supposed to be an extra pair of hands (to be honest they are a hell of a lot more than that) not something extra to do with your own hands Out of interest why do you need to chastise the dog when you're out with the ferrets? Quote Link to post
mattydski 560 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Guys its like this... I have a dog that works in the manner that you expect it too, a true ferreting dog of the highest calibre.... I have another dog, that works off the slip, when and if I choose to let her... It my choice... its my opinion... I enjoy working both dogs in he styles they work... The younger bitch has never been and out and out ferret dog... She excels at lamp work... but that does not mean I wont take her out ferreting with me,... Quote Link to post
Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Didnt know that there defnition of a ferretting dog in the Oxford English Dictionary But each dog is very diffrent we can strive for certain traits but quite often certain dogs will just not ever be a dog that can be left to roam free over warrens . Some of my warrens are 500 holers and having two dogs held back to slip is far better than even two good ferreting dogs over the warren as they just cannot postion themselfs in the right place . ATB Cookie Quote Link to post
Guest Leveller Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Some of my warrens are 500 holers and having two dogs held back to slip is far better than even two good ferreting dogs over the warren as they just cannot postion themselfs in the right place . Seriously? so you have warrens with 500 holes then stand back with two dogs on leads a rabbit bolts and you slip a dog??????? With an average hole having a 100cm circumference multiply that by 500 and you're ferreting in amongst half a kilometer of holes? if you have the same amount of land mass between each hole that would equate to an area of one square kilometer and thats only if the land was like grid paper with every other square being a hole. It wouldn't be possible to run a dog there and even if you could with that many holes the wind would blow through the bury like tornado alley and that's not the type of habitat most sane rabbit wants to dwell in. I know there are some big burys in this land but 500 holes seriously? C'mon now and I still for the life of me could never see the point of holding onto a dog whilst it joins me out ferreting. A ferreter requires at the very least a dog to mark, cover nets, catch bolters, hunt up and deliver live to hand if you or your dog aren't doing this then you aren't ferreting that's how I see it and you'll never change my views on that. If you have fun dropping ferrets in these huge places then slipping your dogs good for you but for the good of the sport please don't claim to be ferreting or to own ferreting dogs. 3 Quote Link to post
mattydski 560 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Best you get you supply of caffeine ready then, cause somebody on the internet is wrong................. 2 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,247 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 each to there own ffs Quote Link to post
Sirius 1,391 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) Theres alot of differnce in a ferreting dog and a dog you take ferreting, thats for sure In my humble opinion I like a dog working loose, marking, catching, retrieveing and most importantly being steady, and you cant teach a dog to be steady on a warren with the dog on a lead too easily. I have seen dogs held back on a slip and they just get wound up, and when they are finally allowed to work free they are just too eager to be much use. Good luck on the 500 hole warrens '5 Month old pup, on a netted warren' Edited August 13, 2012 by Sirius 2 Quote Link to post
Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 I could say we have a good 10 warrens thats in the 400 to 500 holers on the great sand banks of oxfordshire and so old chalk downland warrens that have evaded the dreaded mixy yes I know for some it hard to belive where having 8 or 10 holers . And I amazed Chalkie in your line of work you dont have a few in that size bracket . ATB Cookie Quote Link to post
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