scothunter 12,609 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 How the hell do you guys function without a bank account? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caprelous 217 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Yes stu that would be ideal for me however as a young man it isn't all that easy Yes stu that would be ideal for me however as a young man it isn't all that easy I can see how they have you by the testes somewhat. But the system relies on legislation that when you work for a firm/Company your wages/salary gets paid into a bank account. Thats were you need to break the cycle. When I was serving my apprenticeship i used to get a wage packet at the end of each week with all my stoppages out of it and they insisted at the time they wanted to pay it into a bank for security reasons. There is nothing in law that can insist these conditions in fact quite the opposite. The law says you must be paid in cash look on the Bank Note it states that I will pay the bearer the sum of EX amount and you in law can insist to be paid in coinage or money of the realm. Obviously most employers cant be arsed with paying cash. But do to my field of expertise and a shortage as there are very few in the country I insist on payment in cash. I also insist to be paid weekly or I did when I was working, If they didn't wish to pay me by that method they didn't get the work done simple really. Bye the way I am a specialized mason by trade fixing either marble or stone slabs from all over the world to any manner of surfaces. So if anyone wants any work doing you know were I am you all know my terms of business now as well cash. Edited June 18, 2012 by Caprelous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Interesting stu, you're absolutely correct I have a letter from the Bank of England stating that cash, and nothing else, is legal tender. Debit and credit cards, bank transfers are not legal tender believe it or not. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caprelous 217 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Interesting stu, you're absolutely correct I have a letter from the Bank of England stating that cash, and nothing else, is legal tender. Debit and credit cards, bank transfers are not legal tender believe it or not. Interesting stu, you're absolutely correct I have a letter from the Bank of England stating that cash, and nothing else, is legal tender. Debit and credit cards, bank transfers are not legal tender believe it or not. Absolutely correct. Neither is any other form of draft such as a cheque or bankers draft they are not worth the paper in law they are written on and are viewed as utterences and of no legal tender or conotation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,916 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 That's what I am saying about all the Euro scare mongering with regard to debt, if Greece tipped over tomorrow it would not make a blind bit of difference.....the world wouldn't end, the sun would still rise and all the short sellers would make a shit load of money and so the world would turn. Banks don't do chance bets, they have covered every possible scenario so no matter what, they win! Stu is bang on about overdrafts as well, as soon as you sign the bit of paper you no longer own your business......I would never have one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caprelous 217 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) That's what I am saying about all the Euro scare mongering with regard to debt, if Greece tipped over tomorrow it would not make a blind bit of difference.....the world wouldn't end, the sun would still rise and all the short sellers would make a shit load of money and so the world would turn. Banks don't do chance bets, they have covered every possible scenario so no matter what, they win! Stu is bang on about overdrafts as well, as soon as you sign the bit of paper you no longer own your business......I would never have one. Wilf that also applies to your house as well (Not meaning yours specifically I was refering to people with overdraft facilities)any debt irrespective of what the debts for comes under the same legal entitlement of the banks. Your home is no longer safe from reposes ion. Its a legal charge and repayment is on demand ,failure to pay in full at any time of demand will lead to possession proceedings being taken for the security of your asset(Home) I bet not so many people are aware of that clause and I wonder how many feel secure knowing it? Regards stu Edited June 18, 2012 by Caprelous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,082 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Not to mention that in England and Wales you can pay for and sign what you want, but the land is still owned by the Crown Is that how they can get away with compulsory purchase orders when they want to build a road through someone's garden? Makes sense.. Yes malt, it's also the reason that police can enter your home, warrants can be issued and property seized. Theft is a common law crime and no one is allowed to do it, however if it's left on someone elses property and that person just happens to be the sovereign then the ball park changes somewhat. It all comes back to the banks, the justice system props them up no matter what. I can walk out of my front door now and punch someone, and guarantee I'd get a couple hundred quid fine and community service. If I refused to pay my TV licence its £1000, followed by jail because I really wouldn't pay it It's how they can force you to install anything to do with gas, electric or water, it's a joke and more importantly an illusion of ownership. Not to mention that in England and Wales you can pay for and sign what you want, but the land is still owned by the Crown Is that how they can get away with compulsory purchase orders when they want to build a road through someone's garden? Makes sense.. Yes malt, it's also the reason that police can enter your home, warrants can be issued and property seized. Theft is a common law crime and no one is allowed to do it, however if it's left on someone elses property and that person just happens to be the sovereign then the ball park changes somewhat. It all comes back to the banks, the justice system props them up no matter what. I can walk out of my front door now and punch someone, and guarantee I'd get a couple hundred quid fine and community service. If I refused to pay my TV licence its £1000, followed by jail because I really wouldn't pay it It's how they can force you to install anything to do with gas, electric or water, it's a joke and more importantly an illusion of ownership. Its a good illusion because its easy obtained through ignorance. you will all be told of the consequences after the event by these solicitors and Barristers but Never ever before but you will all find it impossible to prove that advice to the contrary was not given as they need the work of mortgage transactions and setting up legal charges, why should they tell you the truth its not in their interests to do so, They have created a market thats untouchable the only way is to walk with your feet and have nothing to do with any of them. Dont forget the financial institutions cant survive without making money from their customers, I look at the bonuses these individuals get and ask myself how many more people have lost their possessions to pay for that. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm its not only not in there interest to tell you but you also have to remember these barristers and solicitors are as bent and crooked too....after all why are they going to tell you that the crown is going too completly rook you for every penny you have got...... After all these same barristers and solicitors have sworn an oath to uphold the crown ....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caprelous 217 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 its not only not in there interest to tell you but you also have to remember these barristers and solicitors are as bent and crooked too....after all why are they going to tell you that the crown is going too completly rook you for every penny you have got...... After all these same barristers and solicitors have sworn an oath to uphold the crown ....... ........................................................................................................................................................................................................... The problem was I was nieve and belived they were looking after my interest and that why they are there, just goes to show how easy it is for them to administer the con into you believing that they are working for you. Neither is the Courts all they are is the administrators and whipping henchmen carrying out the law they arnt there acting in fair play thats bollocks. I was roggered that much my arse is still sore even after all these years. Cheers stu with the sore arse. Like This Back to top Quote MultiQuot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxfan 479 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Fascinating stuff lads, Carpelous, it sounds like you know first hand how the system will try to devour the individual. The thing is, this problem aint going to go away as under the present system the banks and their subsidiary corporations will grow and demand more and more profits. If they can make money out of thin air, then so can anyone, around the country people are setting up credit unions, which might be worth looking into, although i think they can only function as cells in the grander scheme, i dont fully understand their workings yet. I (like most people ?) would rather have nothing to do with all this cr*p, but they are making it impossible to get out of their system. Someone mentioned ancient law earlier, an interesting point is that Britain was the only country the Romans conquered, that they allowed to keep its own judicial system. They stated in correspondence with Rome, that they had never encountered such a just and fair system of law. Where did it all go wrong ? lol. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Fascinating stuff lads, Carpelous, it sounds like you know first hand how the system will try to devour the individual. The thing is, this problem aint going to go away as under the present system the banks and their subsidiary corporations will grow and demand more and more profits. If they can make money out of thin air, then so can anyone, around the country people are setting up credit unions, which might be worth looking into, although i think they can only function as cells in the grander scheme, i dont fully understand their workings yet. I (like most people ?) would rather have nothing to do with all this cr*p, but they are making it impossible to get out of their system. Someone mentioned ancient law earlier, an interesting point is that Britain was the only country the Romans conquered, that they allowed to keep its own judicial system. They stated in correspondence with Rome, that they had never encountered such a just and fair system of law. Where did it all go wrong ? lol. they never banked on the jewsish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 To me all these problems stem from the way we are financed. People say, ''I'd kill the paedo'' referring to the pubs guy, but the reality is if the justice system was allowed to do its job they wouldn't have to. Interesting that Breach of the Peace is a common law offence and actually taken very seriously, yet the police are encouraged to give you on the spot fines. Revenue revenue revenue. Personally I think it's time for us to decide what we want, if people are happy continuing then so be it, if not then let's get out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 To me all these problems stem from the way we are financed. People say, ''I'd kill the paedo'' referring to the pubs guy, but the reality is if the justice system was allowed to do its job they wouldn't have to. Interesting that Breach of the Peace is a common law offence and actually taken very seriously, yet the police are encouraged to give you on the spot fines. Revenue revenue revenue. Personally I think it's time for us to decide what we want, if people are happy continuing then so be it, if not then let's get out. where we going Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 To me all these problems stem from the way we are financed. People say, ''I'd kill the paedo'' referring to the pubs guy, but the reality is if the justice system was allowed to do its job they wouldn't have to. Interesting that Breach of the Peace is a common law offence and actually taken very seriously, yet the police are encouraged to give you on the spot fines. Revenue revenue revenue. Personally I think it's time for us to decide what we want, if people are happy continuing then so be it, if not then let's get out. where we going Fcuking mars mate have more of a life there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Thinkdaine of you are wired to mars lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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