A solution for Greece (and all of us) ?

[scothunter 12,609]

Think that's what I just said mate.

[PlasticJock 539]

Crossed wires then

[Born Hunter 17,882]

Also BH just re read your post and I think you're missing the point. We need currency, but as a nation we don't have the power to print our own, the banks print it and lend it to us with interest. The whole system is self serving and corrupt - so there's nothing inherently wrong with a mortgage but the way it's done at the moment is crap.

 

Exactly, there's sweet FA I can do about changing the system so I'll just make the most of a bad deal. Hence my questions to Caprelous, because even the way things are if someone gave me 100K bank account I would rip their arm off and I would take a mortgage over rent every time.

[paulus 26]

so in a nutshell, europes fecked, stuff your matress with cash, bankers are corrupt and gorden brown was an ugly fecker

[PlasticJock 539]

Also BH just re read your post and I think you're missing the point. We need currency, but as a nation we don't have the power to print our own, the banks print it and lend it to us with interest. The whole system is self serving and corrupt - so there's nothing inherently wrong with a mortgage but the way it's done at the moment is crap.

 

Exactly, there's sweet FA I can do about changing the system so I'll just make the most of a bad deal. Hence my questions to Caprelous, because even the way things are if someone gave me 100K bank account I would rip their arm off and I would take a mortgage over rent every time.

 

Fair points mate, if they have me £100k I'd take it and withdraw it

I like to think something will be done about it though

[PlasticJock 539]

so in a nutshell, europes fecked, stuff your matress with cash, bankers are corrupt and gorden brown was an ugly fecker

 

Pretty much

[Caprelous 217]

I dont have a bank and even if someone give me £100.000 to put in one I truthfully would not accept it believe it or not for in my time I have been stuffed by the financial institutions for over 1/2 million sponnies but thats a different story.

Learn from my words DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BANKS

Once your in the system your ferked.

Get out now while you can.

 

That's a curious statement. What possible bad could come from someone legitimately giving you a bank account with £100k in it?

 

Also, another question for you on the same note; Very few could ever afford to buy a property in cash at any point in their life but could quite easily with a say 20-30 year mortgage. So what advantage do you see to these people renting all their lives as oposed to taking out a mortgage?

 

I dont have a bank and even if someone give me £100.000 to put in one I truthfully would not accept it believe it or not for in my time I have been stuffed by the financial institutions for over 1/2 million sponnies but thats a different story.

Learn from my words DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BANKS

Once your in the system your ferked.

Get out now while you can.

 

That's a curious statement. What possible bad could come from someone legitimately giving you a bank account with £100k in it?

 

Also, another question for you on the same note; Very few could ever afford to buy a property in cash at any point in their life but could quite easily with a say 20-30 year mortgage. So what advantage do you see to these people renting all their lives as oposed to taking out a mortgage?

 

 

 

I had a Mortgage and a good business but conned into signing a legal charge on it when things went tits up because I could not compete due to influx of European workers the bank pulled the plug and I was left with nothing.

 

My property was worth 1/2 million 20 years ago probably 1.5 million in todays terms.

what you dont realise in the small print of an overdraft the banks can foreclose at any time which they did and sell it for £5. if they want to, they are not under any obligation to obtain in law the best possible price unlike a mutual building society who does in law.

 

Being nieve I wasnt aware of that at the time so I signed anything that was put before me, Hard lesson .

 

 

What makes you think that your house is yours because you have a mortgage. even if you manage to pay it off as per the terms the assests are taken of you when you need to go into an old folks home to pay for your keep. At £500 min a week per person both you and your wife £1000 at current prices will not last you very long even if you had £200.000 caleteral/equity in your property thats after the banks and solicitor teams have had their wack out of setting it all up. Aint that a fact.

one thing I am more than sure of property is attackable and causes misery administrating it its not something you can pick up and carry away with you when times get rough.

not only that whilst you have it in your possession and lets not cod ourselves here thats what it is possession and temporary at that.

You work you balls off in improving it thinking that some day it will all be yours and that when you die your children(siblings benefit from your endeavors.) i will correct you and give you the facts unless the last remaining owner/possessor of the property dies before going into a nursing home the only people who will reap your en devours are those running the nursing home and the state thats of course if there is anything left after death duties and unpaid taxes

 

Those with the money not invested in bricks and mortar can obviously secrate whats in their estate to their next of kin without any imposition.

 

I should add its the only thing I admire the gypsies for and even then some of them have been stupid and tied their money up in attack-able property. Some folk never learn , mind you it took me long enough through ignorance.

 

I forgot to mention the banks took possession of my property and sold it to a Bank official at half its value and claimed any losses through a insurance its a ploy they use regular.

 

Nice way of doing one person out of what they thought was theirs, My barrister told me after the event it never was mine as soon as I had signed that provision for an overdraft facility I had signed away any assets jointly or severally that I thought I owned.

 

Be careful know all those out there that have overdrafts facilities even if you dont use them something tells me you have urinated on the chips.

Finally

Its really nice for me as a builder going past my property that I designed and built for myself seeing a bank manager lording it up while they stuffed me and left me skint yeah really nice.

 

I forgot to mention I only had a £28,000 mortgage on it as well some incentive to work for a living and borrow on a mortgage and provide for your family.

Am I bitter Nagggggggggggggg gutted O YES

Edited June 18, 2012 by Caprelous

[PlasticJock 539]

Not to mention that in England and Wales you can pay for and sign what you want, but the land is still owned by the Crown

[Malt 379]

Not to mention that in England and Wales you can pay for and sign what you want, but the land is still owned by the Crown

Is that how they can get away with compulsory purchase orders when they want to build a road through someone's garden? Makes sense..

[scothunter 12,609]

Wish they would build a f*****g road through my garden, save me f*****g doing it lol

[PlasticJock 539]

Not to mention that in England and Wales you can pay for and sign what you want, but the land is still owned by the Crown

Is that how they can get away with compulsory purchase orders when they want to build a road through someone's garden? Makes sense..

 

Yes malt, it's also the reason that police can enter your home, warrants can be issued and property seized. Theft is a common law crime and no one is allowed to do it, however if it's left on someone elses property and that person just happens to be the sovereign then the ball park changes somewhat.

It all comes back to the banks, the justice system props them up no matter what.

I can walk out of my front door now and punch someone, and guarantee I'd get a couple hundred quid fine and community service. If I refused to pay my TV licence its £1000, followed by jail because I really wouldn't pay it

It's how they can force you to install anything to do with gas, electric or water, it's a joke and more importantly an illusion of ownership.

[Caprelous 217]

Not to mention that in England and Wales you can pay for and sign what you want, but the land is still owned by the Crown

Is that how they can get away with compulsory purchase orders when they want to build a road through someone's garden? Makes sense..

 

Yes malt, it's also the reason that police can enter your home, warrants can be issued and property seized. Theft is a common law crime and no one is allowed to do it, however if it's left on someone elses property and that person just happens to be the sovereign then the ball park changes somewhat.

It all comes back to the banks, the justice system props them up no matter what.

I can walk out of my front door now and punch someone, and guarantee I'd get a couple hundred quid fine and community service. If I refused to pay my TV licence its £1000, followed by jail because I really wouldn't pay it

It's how they can force you to install anything to do with gas, electric or water, it's a joke and more importantly an illusion of ownership.

Not to mention that in England and Wales you can pay for and sign what you want, but the land is still owned by the Crown

Is that how they can get away with compulsory purchase orders when they want to build a road through someone's garden? Makes sense..

 

Yes malt, it's also the reason that police can enter your home, warrants can be issued and property seized. Theft is a common law crime and no one is allowed to do it, however if it's left on someone elses property and that person just happens to be the sovereign then the ball park changes somewhat.

It all comes back to the banks, the justice system props them up no matter what.

I can walk out of my front door now and punch someone, and guarantee I'd get a couple hundred quid fine and community service. If I refused to pay my TV licence its £1000, followed by jail because I really wouldn't pay it

It's how they can force you to install anything to do with gas, electric or water, it's a joke and more importantly an illusion of ownership.

 

 

Its a good illusion because its easy obtained through ignorance.

 

you will all be told of the consequences after the event by these solicitors and Barristers but Never ever before but you will all find it impossible to prove that advice to the contrary was not given as they need the work of mortgage transactions and setting up legal charges, why should they tell you the truth its not in their interests to do so, They have created a market thats untouchable the only way is to walk with your feet and have nothing to do with any of them.

Dont forget the financial institutions cant survive without making money from their customers, I look at the bonuses these individuals get and ask myself how many more people have lost their possessions to pay for that.

 

 

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[PlasticJock 539]

Very true Stu, most of us live on impossible dreams we'd like a house to call our own and a nice garden maybe, the young people want to be rich popstars, but the reality is it can all be taken away in the blink of an eye.

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Murray_(Scottish_businessman)#section_5

 

Here's a guy who in 2008 was worth £720 million, but in 2009 it had dropped to £110 million.

 

It's all numbers on a computer to me, the only reason I still have a bank account is because if I didn't I couldn't work. I think it's called being held to ransom.

[Caprelous 217]

Very true Stu, most of us live on impossible dreams we'd like a house to call our own and a nice garden maybe, the young people want to be rich popstars, but the reality is it can all be taken away in the blink of an eye.

 

http://en.m.wikipedi...ish_businessman)#section_5

 

Here's a guy who in 2008 was worth £720 million, but in 2009 it had dropped to £110 million.

 

It's all numbers on a computer to me, the only reason I still have a bank account is because if I didn't I couldn't work. I think it's called being held to ransom.

Very true Stu, most of us live on impossible dreams we'd like a house to call our own and a nice garden maybe, the young people want to be rich popstars, but the reality is it can all be taken away in the blink of an eye.

 

http://en.m.wikipedi...ish_businessman)#section_5

 

Here's a guy who in 2008 was worth £720 million, but in 2009 it had dropped to £110 million.

 

It's all numbers on a computer to me, the only reason I still have a bank account is because if I didn't I couldn't work. I think it's called being held to ransom.

 

well I have managed for 25 years not to have one they will never ever con me or my family like they did 25years ago

 

My kids dont have a bank account either they are very much aware of how the system works and how it has effected this family they are aware of the lies and underhanded way the legal profession closed ranks in my pursuit of justice on the matter.

 

The bottom line is you cant beat them, I should know because by hell I tried. but you can live without them contrary to what you are told and 25 years to me is enough proof that it can be obtained..

 

Cash and Barter is still King. long may it reign

 

cheers

Stu

[PlasticJock 539]

Yes stu that would be ideal for me however as a young man it isn't all that easy