scothunter 12,609 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I haven't really looked into the new legislation about the Internet proposal. But from what you say, I'm guessing it does not mean your broadband is gonna be monitored 24/7. I would imagine they aren't gonna come knocking on your door for watching porn (unless it' involves kids) and I would hope they do come a chapping for that. It's the old cliche if you aren't doing anything totally illegal then me personally they can check away. Yes it could be construed as an invasion of your privacy, but let's face it is there anything that we do that is totally of the radar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 The point is that they aren't kicking off about the wages! "I ain't your pal, Vanilla". Not that you'd know where that quote came from, ya fooking square! Im not gona lie its not he first time ive been called square . Goolge is my "pal" though and told me the quote was from a recent motion picture by the name of "Role Models" ... it looks a right hoot. My point is it is totaly about wages. There getting undercut by some one willing to do the work for less. Its called buisness so unles you want to resurect Lenin then were stuck with it. The point about Solmalia wasnt about how much of a shit hole the country was in it was about the drought in the Horn of Africa in general. People in Britain are so so lucky to live the comparativly lavish lifestyles we do and you have lorry drivers complaining that 40k isnt enough. TBH i think you make the best point foxfan, that the money is probably just for higher proffits for the company, but again as i said its buisness (which i guess is abit of a cop-out but i dont know enough about it to say anthing else). scothunter i mentioned squaddies not for any reason onther than the started training them last week or something. Lads and lasses straight out of school (some of em) with a week or 2s training, how dangerous can the job be? Soldiers as mercinaries i would probably agree with to an extent, you only have to look at the amount of blokes that leave only to work for private security companys. Its also not the first time ive been called naive but you seem to think its black and white PlasticJock, im sure there are many things i dont know about the ins and outs, the dirty workings of the nation, you do seem to have a very "conspiracy theory"ist view of it though. Any chance you can point me in the right direction of some reading material? *whisper* We'd best type quietly though incase they hear us ... *whisper* How about you think of it like this. Theres a bloke whos been driving for Tesco the last 10 years, he wants more money so he tries to do some work for a tanker company but he cant because he has to jump through rediculous "saftey" hoops which enable the tanker driver to have a strangle hold on all the tanker work were they earn double what every one else does. There not out for the regular bloke, there out for themselves, as are the Unions. Buch, if you've been paying attention over the last week, you'll understand that whispering won't do us much good, if government pass the bill allowing them to spy on our communications without reasonable suspicion (so anytime) But maybe that's just a 'theory' You're absolutely right, I do see the world in black and white most of the time. However, if you look through my content I'm sure you will find many examples of when I've held my hands up and say ''I was wrong.'' if you can convince me otherwise on an issue then I'm all ears Anything that I say can generally be backed up with fact, if you want me to explain any of my points further, then please ask That was my point about whispering exacaly . I just think if the every were was as much like the illuminate as your implying then wed know about it. You'd think so wouldn't you... Illuminate crap lol, let me give you an example of my mindframe... We all have our own 'cliques'. I'm an ex squaddie, so most other squaddies are in mine. Hunters relate to each other in a way most wouldn't understand. Ex public schoolboys, coppers, friends, clubs, sports teams are all good examples. To me, there's nothing sinister about what's been happening over the last few years. No Dr X's in underground laboratories, no Blofelds stroking white cats. Just a lot of self serving, morally corrupt arseholes in positions of power who've abused it to their own ends, and continue to do so right under your nose. You'd think by the fact you use it everyday, you'd understand what money actually is, and how worthless it is. But by your posts I'm assuming you don't. Not my opinion, just facts based on written responses by the treasury, bank of England, the government you name it. But because I'm talking about something they don't teach you or talk about, I'm automatically a 'Conspiracy Theorist!' As said, feel free to do your own research and prove me wrong... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I haven't really looked into the new legislation about the Internet proposal. But from what you say, I'm guessing it does not mean your broadband is gonna be monitored 24/7. I would imagine they aren't gonna come knocking on your door for watching porn (unless it' involves kids) and I would hope they do come a chapping for that. It's the old cliche if you aren't doing anything totally illegal then me personally they can check away. Yes it could be construed as an invasion of your privacy, but let's face it is there anything that we do that is totally of the radar. So if we aren't breaking the law, it's ok to live in George Orwell's 1984? As I said a few months ago, if you're happy with that then its entirely up to you, but personally it won't be happening to me 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Ah but we didn't have the serious threat of terrorisim like we do today. Yes the ira did a few bombings but it wasn't planned over the net. There is a plausible threat of Nukes and dirty bombs these days. Do like I said if they wanna trawl through the shite I look at on the net then good luck to them. You say it's not gonna happen to you. Well u use the internet how you propose to stop them. Also do you honestly believe they don't already check stuff of the record. Like I said not fonna bother you if it's nothing that's a threat to the nation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Ah but we didn't have the serious threat of terrorisim like we do today. Yes the ira did a few bombings but it wasn't planned over the net. There is a plausible threat of Nukes and dirty bombs these days. Do like I said if they wanna trawl through the shite I look at on the net then good luck to them. You say it's not gonna happen to you. Well u use the internet how you propose to stop them. Also do you honestly believe they don't already check stuff of the record. Like I said not fonna bother you if it's nothing that's a threat to the nation. Scot they try and make out these donkey riders can get nuclear material to create a dirty bomb, several scientists have said even if it did happen it wouldn't be a tenth as bad as they make out. MI6 is out everyday stopping proliferation of things like that, the chances of them getting near plutonium etc is next to zero, even with Iran and N Korea on the watch list. All this 'War on terrorism' has done has fanned the flames, simple as. Since Iraq we now have homegrown terrorists, something that was almost non existent before. So yet again, the majority is suffering because of educated idiots guesswork. So now, I can't read articles on how bombs are built? It's my job to know things like that, but will every other aspect of my life be under scrutiny because of it??? How do I propose to stop them? Well tbh I'm not that bothered - people have started to wake up and these idiots won't last much longer, this bill is yet another nail in the coffin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Think your letting your paranoi run riot lol well I've seen what those terrorist c**ts can do, and anything that stops or interferes in thier plans is ok with me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) Think your letting your paranoi run riot lol well I've seen what those terrorist c**ts can do, and anything that stops or interferes in thier plans is ok with me. I've fought the terrorist c**ts, they can't shoot straight, most are illiterate, and yet the have the ability to build a dirty bomb They're intelligent, deadly, had the highest training, and yet conveniently leave a nice trail of breadcrumbs when they blow something up And yet, with the greatest military minds in the world, our leaders in all their wisdom plonked us in a country beset on all sides with hostile nations We paid £800 million to Pakistan in aid, and yet they are some of the worst terrorist supporters in the world But of course, our leaders know better on this one Edited April 2, 2012 by PlasticJock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,519 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Tanker drivers threating to strike on H@S grounds what a load of bollocks 37k or 47k its a fair wage in the current market I climb trees and have more H@S worries in day than they do in 12 months and I earn alot less. Wish they just had the balls to say we want more money rather phiss it H@S yet to find a accident recorded of a untrained tanker driver . Not one of 171 deaths in the workplace in 2011 had anything to do with ADR transportation. Cookie Yer thats my point exacaly. Yer lets all cheer for the tanker drivers "yay for strikers". There only in it for themselves theyve got a strangle hold on the business with wages as high as £45 grand and because businesses are having the audacity to try and hire other people there spitting there dummies out. People think its some kind of revolution, you need actual REAL hardship for a revolution. You need people dieing in the streets. You need people getting thrown away in cells to be torchered. Not because some fat trucker cant afford his new BMW this year. Why are people still moaning about cuts? ... THE COUNTRY HAS NO MONEY! Honestly some one you are so blinded by your hate for the Torries it makes you sounds stupid. In the industreal revolution Unions meant something. They fought for the rights that we all have (but i bet most dont use), for that IM thankful. What do they do these days? The cause trouble, they try to get there own back because the nasty torries f****d up there shit 30 years go. Realy the question is .. WHY are you all supporting some one who is paid £45 grand (which i would bet is considerably more that 95% of the people on this board) when all there doing is making your life harder? You can kid yourselves all you want but the reasons they are doing it is pure and simple, self interest. Why SHOULDNT the job be open to more people? Why SHOULDNT random joe bloggs lorry driver have a chance at making some real money driving a fuel tanker? why the tax cuts if the country has no money buch It was a neutral budget. They just moved the money around from one place to another without increasing or deacreasing the money coming in over all. did they do it for nothing then,or did they have to pay people to move it about when they could have left it as it was please explain further Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 PJ is right. It's always existed, it's just now we gave them a brand, and a name, and held them up as the 'great enemy'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 gonna try and find the video on these so called terrorist networks. Now i do believe there are terrorists that want us killed etc but terrorism is far down the list they are using and the rulers in the west are very happy we think there so well coordinated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 It's hardly rocket science I could build a dirty bomb if I had a few used core rods or a load of stolen radiation equipment from a hospital and such like. A hold all and a blob of pe bobs your uncle. Watch you don't crack a rib with all that laughing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Johnny I'm in awe at the pics you find bud lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 PJ is right. It's always existed, it's just now we gave them a brand, and a name, and held them up as the 'great enemy'. Cheers, funny how bin laden was killed just as they were talking about pulling out - present the face of the enemy to appease the citizens. 9/11 was very personal to most yanks, it was closure of some sort. Conveniently forgetting the fact that we've lost another war at great expense, and f**ked up afghanistan while we were at it. Just look at these threads! Very 'Us and Them'. We're all going through the same s**t, and yet constantly moaning at each other when in reality the only ones better off are those at the top. Blame the 'Benefit scroungers.' No, blame the government for handing power to Brussels. Blame the 'Terrorists.' No, blame the government for handing over millions in 'aid' to hostile nations, arming groups, then having to deal with the consequences decades later. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Divide and conquer matey, side by side with fear mongering. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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