Marvin 193 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just a thought, although this is a recognised as being part of the autism spectrum, does anyone feel the symptoms could be imposed onto a person without realisation by the parents/guardian's during formative years ???? Sorry if its a bit too deep at this time of the day 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,955 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Christ Marvin! Where the hell did that come from? I guess some of the syptoms to do with social interaction could be imposed on a young child by poor socialisation etc but f**k knows.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just a thought, although this is a recognised as being part of the autism spectrum, does anyone feel the symptoms could be imposed onto a person without realisation by the parents/guardian's during formative years ???? Sorry if its a bit too deep at this time of the day Do you mean the symptoms could be what the child thinks as normal behaviour because of their upbringing, but misconstrued by the adults? It is a bit early Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marvin 193 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just a thought, although this is a recognised as being part of the autism spectrum, does anyone feel the symptoms could be imposed onto a person without realisation by the parents/guardian's during formative years ???? Sorry if its a bit too deep at this time of the day Do you mean the symptoms could be what the child thinks as normal behaviour because of their upbringing, but misconstrued by the adults? It is a bit early Yeah that's more or less the point mate, would the child grow thinking his actions are normal behaviour, although not misconstrued by the adults, more reinforced by their peers/parents. Just a theory/view I have been looking into regarding the sheer lack of social interaction skills which seem to be increasingly prevalent throughout today's society, More apparent in the lack of empathy, emotional reciprocation and non-verbal communication characteristics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Millet 4,497 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Most of this site's make up contain's a high percentage of people that will fall into that category.. i'm sure Marvin.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Just a thought, although this is a recognised as being part of the autism spectrum, does anyone feel the symptoms could be imposed onto a person without realisation by the parents/guardian's during formative years ???? Sorry if its a bit too deep at this time of the day Do you mean the symptoms could be what the child thinks as normal behaviour because of their upbringing, but misconstrued by the adults? It is a bit early Yeah that's more or less the point mate, would the child grow thinking his actions are normal behaviour, although not misconstrued by the adults, more reinforced by their peers/parents. Just a theory/view I have been looking into regarding the sheer lack of social interaction skills which seem to be increasingly prevalent throughout today's society, More apparent in the lack of empathy, emotional reciprocation and non-verbal communication characteristics. Well I'm no expert but I think a large proportion of kids today lack basic social skills.... Whether that's their upbringing, emulating parents behaviour, a lack of social interaction from an early age or whatever.... My cousin was a bit of a handful when he was younger, no doubt helped by his mum who took it upon herself to diagnose him with ADHD, PTSD, ADD and every other psychological acronym you can think of. He never took the blame for his actions as she honestly believed he had a condition. Now he's a normal guy, but I definately think there's a correlation between perceived conditions and children's behaviour. Also, lesser cases of autism, aspergers, ADHD and the like are quite hard to diagnose considering as you say the lack of empathy etc in some people, so perhaps guardians are too quick to jump the gun in some cases and blame an outside influence as opposed to dealing with the behaviour in the first place. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marvin 193 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Oh my god don't get me started on ADHD and ADD, when i was at school they used the acronym's, Naughty Kid and Crap parent. Need kip now as i think i may of pulled a brain muscle this early on in the day 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GrCh 856 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 my nephews autistic, only slightly but he's 5yrs old cant really talk proberly dreading it when he goesto comp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PlasticJock 539 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Oh my god don't get me started on ADHD and ADD, when i was at school they used the acronym's, Naughty Kid and Crap parent. Need kip now as i think i may of pulled a brain muscle this early on in the day Haha sounds like it mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marvin 193 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 my nephews autistic, only slightly but he's 5yrs old cant really talk proberly dreading it when he goesto comp. Should autism and aspergers be on the same spectrum? or are they both differing poles on the same sliding scale debatable, due to the amount of articles written separating the two conditions. Hans Asperger studied children with autism and first recognised children who had previously been diagnosed as autistic having totally differing symptoms which later became known as aspergers. Comprehensive schools are more geared to helping children out with these disorders now, the main problem will be narrow minded individuals who take it upon themselves to ostracize and discriminate against others. It is this lack of social skills and any form of diversity exercised by so many that continuously outcasts and ridicules the weaker amongst society, more often than not to mask their own short falls in the whole social interaction hierarchy, hoping they are not themselves found out by their peers and subsequently targeted, becoming an outcast from their bullying pack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GrCh 856 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 my nephews autistic, only slightly but he's 5yrs old cant really talk proberly dreading it when he goesto comp. Should autism and aspergers be on the same spectrum? or are they both differing poles on the same sliding scale debatable, due to the amount of articles written separating the two conditions. Hans Asperger studied children with autism and first recognised children who had previously been diagnosed as autistic having totally differing symptoms which later became known as aspergers. Comprehensive schools are more geared to helping children out with these disorders now, the main problem will be narrow minded individuals who take it upon themselves to ostracize and discriminate against others. It is this lack of social skills and any form of diversity exercised by so many that continuously outcasts and ridicules the weaker amongst society, more often than not to mask their own short falls in the whole social interaction hierarchy, hoping they are not themselves found out by their peers and subsequently targeted, becoming an outcast from their bullying pack. To be honest mate I dont know enough much about either to make any kind of judgement. The comment about comperhensive schools being more geared to help children with these problems I really hope that is the case but not what I was really worried about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marvin 193 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 What are your main worries regarding comprehensive schools dude Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bunnys 1,236 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 VERY GOOD POSTS AND A HEADS UP ATB BUNNYS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I had ADHD at school.......dont worry my Mum soon kicked that the f**k right out of me..... Joking aside though i dont believe there is such a thing. Everyone looking for an excuse nowadays cause there scared to give there children a clip round the lug in fear of going to jail. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 my nephews autistic, only slightly but he's 5yrs old cant really talk properly dreading it when he goesto comp. Should autism and asperges be on the same spectrum? or are they both differing poles on the same sliding scale debatable, due to the amount of articles written separating the two conditions. Hans Asperger studied children with autism and first recognised children who had previously been diagnosed as autistic having totally differing symptoms which later became known as aspergers. Comprehensive schools are more geared to helping children out with these disorders now, the main problem will be narrow minded individuals who take it upon themselves to ostracize and discriminate against others. It is this lack of social skills and any form of diversity exercised by so many that continuously outcasts and ridicules the weaker amongst society, more often than not to mask their own short falls in the whole social interaction hierarchy, hoping they are not themselves found out by their peers and subsequently targeted, becoming an outcast from their bullying pack. I think '' Autistic spectrum'' is just the umbarella term used, I know having worked with teens with '' low level Autism'' that there no way they could be placed in a mainstream school , most of the clients i worked with were doubly incontinent for a start Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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