Ideation 8,217 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Has anyone else ever had or experianced a dog that just wasn't the same around other dogs? Not in terms of aggression etc, but in terms of taking part in the days activity and running? The reason i ask, is that i have noticed of late, that if i go out with other dogs (apart from johnnyboys who he has known from a pup), then my lad, always seems to want to take himself off and hunt a lone, and even when game is put up, doesn't really seem to put his all in, same with ferreting, he doesnt seem as bothered with grabbing the netted rabbits if he knows another dog can get there. He does however seem obsessed with stealing the dead rabbits and bringing them back to me. It's not always been a problem, and isn't too bad, just a bit niggling and can be a wee bit embaressing. Any thoughts? Quote Link to post
x38 179 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 what x is he..... Quote Link to post
The Duncan 802 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Has anyone else ever had or experianced a dog that just wasn't the same around other dogs? Not in terms of aggression etc, but in terms of taking part in the days activity and running? The reason i ask, is that i have noticed of late, that if i go out with other dogs (apart from johnnyboys who he has known from a pup), then my lad, always seems to want to take himself off and hunt a lone, and even when game is put up, doesn't really seem to put his all in, same with ferreting, he doesnt seem as bothered with grabbing the netted rabbits if he knows another dog can get there. He does however seem obsessed with stealing the dead rabbits and bringing them back to me. It's not always been a problem, and isn't too bad, just a bit niggling and can be a wee bit embaressing. Any thoughts? So its not all bad then Quote Link to post
darbo 4,779 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 the last bitch i had. saluki lurcher x collie lurcher. great little bitch worked alone or with my terrier. try to work her with someone elses dogs and she didnt really didnt wont to know. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 He is a pure whippet. And no it's not all bad. Don't get me wrong, he still catches, marks, and does the job needed. However, there is a difference in him, between if i am ferreting a warren with another dog or two he has not worked with before, and if i am ten yards away ferreting a warren with just him, while the other dogs are being used on the next warren. If that makes sense? And if a rabbit bolts the net, he doesnt run the same a when it just him, or him and johnnyboys dogs. He settles down after he has worked a long side them a few times though. He is a very submissive dog to bitches especially and will give his catch up to them. However he has also been known to pile into much much large and stronger male dogs if he thinks they are two close to his bitches. Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Ive known it plenty,To be honest i dont like working with a heap of other dogs around and because of that,mine would work differently if i did put them in that situation,they just aint used to it. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 An example from yesterday - We are ferreting a hedge, and in the field behind there is a strip of rough grass a long a gully. The action slowed up on our hedge, and the other dogs had it covered, so he decided to feck off and hunt up this gully. He put up a couple of rabbits which he almost caught and ran to ground. Which is fine, but sometimes its frustrating when you assume your dog is on watch the other side of the hedge with the other dog, and you look up to realise he is bushing up a distant wood on his own, or a rabbit bolts and your dog lets the slower dog take the lead, with the rabbit escaping (and yet 20 mins later runs a lone on a much faster quarry and catches it). Quote Link to post
iworkwhippets 13,234 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 So its not just me then, my blue bitch wont move from my side if im out with other dogs, which is rare, she has been well socialised, but will only work with my other whippet Quote Link to post
dublin dezzy 1,023 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 have a colliex the total opposite,shes an old sort,if i bring her out with another dog its like a competition to her runs like a demon,total different dog to when out with just her, she would run herself into the ground to do one better. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 So its not just me then, my blue bitch wont move from my side if im out with other dogs, which is rare, she has been well socialised, but will only work with my other whippet Haha, mines the opposite. He won't stay near my side, if there are other dogs about me. It's happened a couple of times recently, i been out for a while, the dog working well, and then met up with someone and their dog / s and he has become an ignorant, little, black, b*****d. He won't go far, he just seems to want to hunt to one side lol. Yet, when it comes to ferreting on my own or with johnny, he is very focused, patient and responsive as long as there is a ferret to ground. Quote Link to post
x38 179 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 sounds like hes a super dog just blagging a shift mate .........think you are answering your own question ....all the best with him x38 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 sounds like hes a super dog just blagging a shift mate .........think you are answering your own question ....all the best with him x38 It's one of them things i guess. I'm usually fecking cursing him all day for doing it, until he puts something up and catches it we would have never know about unless he had ranged. He gets better if you work him hard and knacker him. Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Sounds to me he just dont like running with other dogs,He is trying to get his own space so as not to be competing,If it comes to a completion he just lets the other dog go.Dont think theres much you can do to change it? Quote Link to post
The Duncan 802 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Dogs are probably just as indiviual as we are Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,217 Posted February 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 I think i may need to accept it as one of them things. He is only young though, just under 2. The only real hassle, is it can make it look like your dogs highly disobediant, when folk are used to the kind of lurchers that are always around your feet. On the up side, he hunts like f**k and finds more varied game than any other dog i know lol. Great mooching partner. I'm hoping working him a long side as many different dogs as i can will eventually cure him of it, even though its more a small niggle than a big problem. Quote Link to post
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