welshydale 22 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Cows milk is toxic for them to but goat's milk is ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moll. 1,770 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Foods Which are Potentially Toxic to Dogs Some common foods can be poisonous to dogs and puppies, sometimes in very small amounts. It should not be assumed that human food is safe for your dog. The food items listed below should not be given to dogs and should be stored safely out of their reach. Care should also be taken when preparing and serving these foods to be sure your dog is not tempted to ‘hoover’ up after you. Grapes/Raisins Chocolate Onions Macadamia Nuts See below for details other foods which should also be avoided Grapes and Raisins Grapes and raisins contain an unknown toxin which can cause kidney failure in dogs. Please be aware that raisins are more concentrated than grapes, hence more toxic. The toxic dose has not yet been determined. Eating just a handful of raisins and grapes has been shown to cause kidney failure, whereas in other cases large quantities have been consumed without ill effect. It is recommended that the feeding of grapes and raisins is avoided completely. Chocolate (and Caffeine) Chocolate contains theobromine. Theobromine and caffeine stimulate the heart and nervous system. Dogs (and cats) are more sensitive than humans to the effects of these substances. In dogs these substances can cause seizures, coma and death occurring from heart failure. Plain and dark chocolate contains more theobromine and therefore is more dangerous than milk chocolate if your dog ingests it. Theobromine stays in the dogs system for a long time, meaning that chocolate poisoning can occur if small amounts of chocolate are fed repeatedly. Please remember that cocoa powder, baking chocolate and other foods contain theobromine. It has also been reported that Cocoa husk mulch (sold in garden centres) is highly toxic. Dog chocolate has had the theobromine removed. Onions Onions contain a substance, thiosulphate, which can cause the destruction of red blood cells (hemolytic anemia) and potentially life-threatening anemia. Thiosulphate levels are not affected by cooking or processing. Raw or cooked onions, onion powder and shallots can all cause toxicity. Occasional exposure to small amounts is usually not a problem, but continuous exposure to even very small amounts can be a serious threat. Garlic and garlic powder can have the same effect but would require much larger doses to be considered toxic. Mid Sussex Dog Training School Macadamia Nuts Macadamia nuts (raw and roasted) can cause dogs to develop a tremor of the skeletal muscles, and weakness or paralysis of the hindquarters. The exact substance that triggers the reaction is unknown as is the toxic dose although it is thought to be very small. This is currently known as toxin only to dogs. Some other foods which should be avoided Apples, Apricots, Cherries, Peaches and Plums (seeds/stone): The fruits themselves are not considered toxic; however the seeds/stones do contain a type of cyanide compound which can poison your dog if enough of them are eaten. Alcohol: Dogs are susceptible to alcohol poisoning. If enough alcohol is ingested, it can cause death. Animal fat, fried and fatty foods: Excessive fat can cause pancreatitis. Avocados: The fruit, leaves, stem and pit are all toxic. The toxic substance is called Persin (a fatty acid derivative). Ingestion of the Avocado plant can cause difficulty breathing, fluid accumulation around the heart, vomiting, diarrhea, generalised congestion, and heart failure. Currently the amount of avocado fruit or other parts of the plant, needed to poison your dog is unknown. Broccoli: If fed in very large quantities (i.e. over 10% of the dog’s diet) Broccoli can be toxic causing intestinal irritation. Coffee Grounds/Beans and Tea (Caffeine): Coffee grounds/beans and tea contains caffeine. The symptoms of coffee poisoning are similar to the symptoms of chocolate poisoning. Hops: Can cause malignant hyperthermia in dogs, usually with fatal results. Certain breeds, such as Greyhounds, seem more sensitive to hop toxicity, but hops should be kept away from all dogs. Even small amounts of hops can trigger a potentially deadly reaction. Nutmeg: High levels of nutmeg can result in seizures, tremors, central nervous system problems, and even death. Rhubarb Leaves: Large amounts of raw or cooked rhubarb leaves can cause convulsions, coma and in extreme cases, death. Salt: Excessive salt intake may cause kidney problems. Salt should never be given to a pet to induce vomiting; increased sodium content in the blood causes the brain cells to swell (cerebral edema). Tomatos: Contain atropine, which can cause dilated pupils, tremors, and heart arrhythmias. The highest concentration of atropine is found in the leaves and stems of tomato plants. Mid Sussex Dog Training School Yeast Dough/Bread Dough: Can expand and produce gas in the digestive system, causing pain and possible rupture of the stomach or intestines. Rising dough can also release ethanol, enough to cause alcohol poisoning. Obviously these foods are not the only potential hazardous substances found in the home and garden. Fertilizers, slug pellets, cleaning agents, antifreeze, detergents, mouse/rat poison, moth balls, vitamins, some garden/house plants, and many types of medication can all be extremely dangerous to pets. It is common sense to ensure that these items are properly stored away from your pets (and children!). http://www.mgbtraining.co.uk/docs/Foods%20Which%20are%20Potenially%20Toxic%20to%20Dogs.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlefish 549 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Iv'e heard grapes are toxic to dogs, as well as a lot of other common foods. I have a 13 year old walking miracle who has ate some amount of junk over the years including a full box of Milk Tray in one go, two loaves of egg and onion sandwiches, raw potatoes, apples etc theived from the veg rack and stripped the tomatoes off plants on the greenhouse when the door was left open and full cakes, greaseproof paper and all......and no sign of gut ache ever. I guess some individual dogs must be more susceptible than others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mooch. 177 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 I used to feed grapes as the veg portion of my dogs barf diet with no I'll effects what so ever...... ..... but when I found out they COULD cause kidney failure I stopped. Better safe than sorry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my hounds 307 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 Moll you beat me to it but i would suggest to people google"foods toxic to dogs" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reddawn 2,173 Posted January 17, 2012 Report Share Posted January 17, 2012 what about ferrets , my kids always given me ferrerts raisens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mosby 355 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I was told this a few years ago. I didn't take notice of it and I still don't. I have for years shaded my kennels in the summer by growing grapes and hoppes over them. Both are supposedly toxic to dogs. My dogs eat fruit off the vine of berries and grapes just as do fox. Grapes are a staple of the canine summer diet. I looked up the reasons behind grapes being on the no no food list and came back with even less fear than before I studied it. Now I haven't read this stuff for a couple of years but several things stood out to me... Somewhere around nine dogs died of kidney failure after eating grapes... NINE DOGS?! Out of how many millions? That is preposterous in and of itself that they make such a to do after nine dogs. Second is as stated above, "An UNKNOWN TOXIN". The people don't have a clue what they're talking about if you ask me. Needless to say I didn't cut my grapes off the kennels. My dogs still eat them all summer and I still have no dead dogs from instant kidney failure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mosby 355 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Some kids die from eating peanut butter. Should all mankind cut it from their diet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mosby 355 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Garlic is another thing too. Garlic is a natural wormer. Yes it can cause anemia in large quantities but it is also very useful for keeping worms down. A section of garlic for each 20 pounds of weight seven days in a row will worm as well as a vet approved wormer. My dad used it on our dogs all the while I grew up. Just don't feed it all the time. I'd assume it being fed with high iron meats would help counter balance the effect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,261 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Dose dependent poisons, ie a little causes minor symptoms higher doses more symptoms, such as onion/garlic are best avoided, garlic doesn’t effect worms, if it did all of France would be worm free lol. The chemicals can destroy red blood cells and even a small drop is better avoided in working dogs. Minor anaemia is not symptomatic but may reduce stamina etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richie10 345 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 My dog used to rob chocolate bars, eaten a whole chocolate cake, a kilo of raisons which came out like grapes, licked bleach and you could smell it on his breath, hit by a car, nearly drowned in a frozen pond, swallowed a 8 inch turkey bone which came out the same it went in. He wasn't affected a bit, he was just lucky I guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackdug 90 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 My dog used to rob chocolate bars, eaten a whole chocolate cake, a kilo of raisons which came out like grapes, licked bleach and you could smell it on his breath, hit by a car, nearly drowned in a frozen pond, swallowed a 8 inch turkey bone which came out the same it went in. He wasn't affected a bit, he was just lucky I guess. .........i had a labrador like that,, it was a walking garbage disposal unit.....but on a more serious note my youngest lurcher collapsed a couple of years ago and the main suspect was apple seeds as she ate to many whole apples that had fallen from the tree in the garden ...cost me a packet in vet fees ...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mooch. 177 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 My dog used to rob chocolate bars, eaten a whole chocolate cake, a kilo of raisons which came out like grapes, licked bleach and you could smell it on his breath, hit by a car, nearly drowned in a frozen pond, swallowed a 8 inch turkey bone which came out the same it went in. He wasn't affected a bit, he was just lucky I guess. What's your dog's name? Rasputin?! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rapidjenky 97 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 well i just dont use the foods that have been listed to be avoided. will your dog really suffer if it wasn't fed, grapes, chocolate, onion and garlic? just because they dont show signs of problems from eating them do you really think taking the risk is worth it? its not like your dog wont be able to run as fast or see as well if they dont eat them. theres plenty of other food out there which is very good for them so why not just leave them out, even if you think its alot of crap. my nanna died at 96 and smoked alot every day of her life, yet i know smoking is bad for you and wouldent let my kid do it. just cause nanna was never ill because of the fags dont mean ide say its a load of crap and theres no harm in smoking. theres even a guy at my work who smokes like a chimney, drinks 5 nights a week he is now 62 and working as hard as he did 20 years ago, looks as fit as a fiddle. but i know smoking and drinking alot are bad for you. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
old timer123 367 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 f**k me my dogs ate a punnet a grapes other night hope there ok second thoughts could do with a cull no seriously theyve ate loads of grapes there ok though but shant feed em again now a know that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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