skycat 6,174 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 I'll agree with Duckwing about certain Saluki types: b*stards they are, a lot of them. Got given a pup last year: very vocal you could say. Eleven months old now and can finally kennel or crate her overnight without getting stressed out (me, that is). I think a lot of them just have that wilful 'I want' attitude in everything they do and can't stand being confined, restrained until it finally (sometimes never, I'll admit)sinks in that they can't always have their own way: IMO it seems to be a freedom thing: they just gotta have it. Only when they're older do they accept restraint/confinement. Like has already been said, you got to be able to live with them when they're not working. Very true. Any chance you can give him the freedom of the back yard/garden at night? Open kennel door etc. It might work: and a big old marrow bone to chew on. Quote Link to post
countrymaid 2 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Right this is what you do here!!But be warned you have to be cruel to be kind,so to speak.When the pup starts its whining ect you go into its kennel and block its access back into its hut with a board ect,leaving it the run, all the time ignoring it.Then when it starts up again go back down to it this time armed with the hose and let it have a short blast and a stearn talking to.Now let it back into its kennel and wait.you will find you will have to repeat this a few times before the penny drops but it will.Over the years ive only done this once with a pup but it worked in a short period of time,better to nip this in the bud sooner than later or you will have to take the flack from the whole street and that would include me too if i had to put up with this night after night your pup might have a fear of a hose in future but you will not loose its trust in anyway,best of luck with yer pup mate I liked that about blocking the hole and hose pipe, my first Bedlington years ago i wish id have been more hard on him from the start. My pups had me up at 5.45 am this morning they just dont relise its my lie in morning!!! Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted March 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 I'll agree with Duckwing about certain Saluki types: b*stards they are, a lot of them. Got given a pup last year: very vocal you could say. Eleven months old now and can finally kennel or crate her overnight without getting stressed out (me, that is). I think a lot of them just have that wilful 'I want' attitude in everything they do and can't stand being confined, restrained until it finally (sometimes never, I'll admit)sinks in that they can't always have their own way: IMO it seems to be a freedom thing: they just gotta have it. Only when they're older do they accept restraint/confinement. Like has already been said, you got to be able to live with them when they're not working. Very true. Any chance you can give him the freedom of the back yard/garden at night? Open kennel door etc. It might work: and a big old marrow bone to chew on. its not a night time issue now. its during day. when i work nightshift i have to work in daytime and thats when he starts. also when im at work i bet he is howling all day. i have tried leaving him food, bones, deerlegs, fresh venision, and the nut-case just isnt interested. the worst part is that i realy like the dog...... and his training is coming along well....im not going to drug him as i dont like stuff like that, certainly not over a period oif time. we wil just have to see what happens Quote Link to post
Guest WILF Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 im not going to drug him as i dont like stuff like that, certainly not over a period oif time. we wil just have to see what happens Quiet right, cant stand all that dopeing animals up.......even bonfire night, I think the people worry more than the animals and then dope em and it all becomes a vicious circle. I have never made a big deal about bonfire night and my dogs dont give a feck, in fact I make a point of taking them out and working them on bonfire night.......they dont bat an eyelid. Hope it comes good for you JD, nothing worse than starting again after putting a bit of work in. Quote Link to post
FPO 0 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Your gonna have to take him to bed with ya My thoughts exactly!!! First bitch wouldnt shut up, and with being a milker, I needed sleep! 4th night was in dispare so took her to bed with us! perfect ever since, but with 2 dogs now they sleep in the hall with no problems. Sorry but i found it was the only way to stop the noise. Problem when you go to work, quit!! dogs more fun No solution to that one unless you know someone who would dog sit during the day?? Quote Link to post
Irish Lurcher 1,013 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Its would seem to me that this dog requires an OBE. I have tried this method in the past and it works a treat, not a single sound after that. Believe me it really works. Quote Link to post
Guest nitevision Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 iv had a bull x pup since about christmas,the noise this bitch made at first was the worst iv ever heard from a dog,sounded like she was being murdered,she has settled better out in the kennel now,the only time we hear the wailing banshee bitch is when she wants her first feed of the day,this is at the moment 5.30 every fecking morning,i have to get up an feed her otherwise the neighbours will soon get pissed off. Quote Link to post
Guest shay Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Your gonna have to take him to bed with ya I'm sure he's already tried that JD, your obviously doing your rudeys on poor Colin and he has now got to the point where he just needs your loving 24/7 Knowing you he will be house trained ! Can you not leave him indoors mate, tend not to be as vocal when they are inside on a permanent basis. In saying all that i think some dogs just play the bugle and some don't. Quote Link to post
burnie69 376 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Shaggs i just think colin has got a taste for the marmite you smear all over your bollocks and just can't live aday with out his fix Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Shaggs i just think colin has got a taste for the marmite you smear all over your bollocks and just can't live aday with out his fix Quote Link to post
juckler123 707 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 JD i would keep him inside mate i do this with all my pups anyways to much stress not do him no favours in the long run you have my sympathy mate nothing worse than a howler hope you get it sorted Quote Link to post
sidebyside 0 Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 I will add my ten pence worth. If it is a young pup just away from the bitch and the rest of the litter, have a card board box with a good soft padding in the base by the side of your bed, put the pup into it a while BEFORE you intend to go to bed, ignor any noise, once your in bed and the pup starts to wimper whine or what ever just put your hand down to the pup, with in a few minutes they will go back to sleep, if they don't they they need to be let out to relieve themselves, no dog actually likes to crap in it's own nest, once they have been out, play with them for a few minutes, put them back in the box but this time hold them down with your hand if they whine growl at them, they will struggle for a few minutes and then sleep again. The pup will need to be by the bed for 4-5nights, it is then time to put them in their future sleeping area, use the same bedding plus the box, the radio trick works, give them some space and news paper to have a turn out on. There maybe a bit of hassle the first night they any problems just growl at them, let the neighbours know that tonight is the night, they will understand if you have good nieghbours ask them to growl as well! The pup will give up and start to sleep right through, I have used this loads of times, even done it for other peoples dogs sometimes. One word of caution don't keep them in your bedroom for to much more than 7 nights or they will be worse than if you had left them alone on the first night! You would probably think I am a raving loony if you hear or see me growling at a dog, what does the bitch do if her pups are begining to naff her off? Quote Link to post
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