Breaking stick's

[Moll. 1,777]

rather have a dog i have break off then some half hearted piece of shit that will let go because it doesnt want to be there in the first place. and when the f**k do people think sticks are a new thing , i tell you what is new to me tho ..... keeping a mxyi rabbit to see if it can be cured and sticking it on your sofa for pics . wtf !!

 

I know, i am TERRIBLE

[Moll. 1,777]

 

Also I believe if your hitting/kicking/screaming at your dog to get it off then you either need to sell up or maybe purchase a stick.

 

I agree, to stick in their own gob if that's the only way they can get the dogs off

[Moll. 1,777]

I always keep a breaking stick about there handy tools sometimes if ye running dogs into large herds or theres plenty game about its the quickest option,i aint keen on letting a dog rag the feck outta edible large quarry i want it off and dealt with quickly and as queitly as possible, i aint into kicking a dog of or shouting at it to let go while i am out, i dont usualy use them when a dog is on a fox but i have had other foxes coming in while one is being dealt with so a breaking stick was handy and quick and it aint just bull cross dogs they can be used on i wonder how some of ye dogs would come of other quarry,and the only time ive left a dog on deer is to see what its made of in a fallow rut thats simply to test the fecker the rest i break off

 

That is the first sensible pro stick post on here.

[mattydski 560]

if you need a stick then the dog is thick...or in most cases badly trained...i have ran two bull x's of my own over the past 10yr's ..i have also used and been out with several other strong dog's over the year's and not once has a stick ever been needed..if i ever did need to use a stick i would be very disappointed with myself and give up running dogs.

millet there not bull xs you'r running there culls. get your self a proper bull cross and then you will see what the guy's are on about

 

So in your opinion a dog well drilled in the 'leave it' command is a cull?

the right bullx it wouldent matter what command you teach it. if the dogs lached on and kinked up.. do you think if you shout a command drilled in or not it will just let go just like that i dont think so.

 

Whatever.. Maybe our definitions of the right dog are different.. If I had two dogs which could do exactly the same job but one couldn't be called off without breaking, there's only one place that dog would end up...

 

 

Thats bollox Mal... I distinctly remember you telling Buster NOT to shag my leg whilst I was supping ma tea............ Dont recall him being in rush to stop................ Poor training in my opinion.........

[Malt 379]

So ye would cull a dog for not coming of something malt and folks call me harsh i thought ye were wiser than that fella

 

I can't fecking stand a disobedient dog mate! Maybe it's a failing on my part, but I enjoy the whole experience. I'd feel I'd been wasting my time training a dog for the best part of a year if it didn't do what it was told. I've been out with both types, those who let go and those who won't, they both do the same job. It would seriously piss me off if I had to go through the bother of using a breaking stick after every kill so we could move on.

[Malt 379]

Thats bollox Mal... I distinctly remember you telling Buster NOT to shag my leg whilst I was supping ma tea............ Dont recall him being in rush to stop................ Poor training in my opinion.........

 

Good job I wasn't drinking tea when I read that Matt!

[Guest sam]

well its looking like theres a few more children useing the stick to there advantage,so maybe you old fcuker should take note,its better to have and not need,then to need and not have.

[blan89 159]

@scothunter

 

what about between your own dogs?

 

ive got a very strong little patterdale x that got into a scrap with my own lurcher when it was about 10 months old over a rabbit (he caught it and the lurcher tried to take it),if i hadnt of had a stick to hand it could of been very nasty.

 

as it was the lurcher was in a bad way but survived and made a full recovery.

 

imagine that it was a big deerhound x or something getting hold of a terrier or much smaller lurcher.

 

Been there, done that, but worse, never needed a stick.

 

what did you do then?

 

the terrier will not let go,even if you threw him into water he'd just drown (and take the other dog with him) I know this because he's nearly drowned himself trying to drag a sheep carcass out of a river before (i used a stick then aswell)

 

im not saying i have all the answers but in some situations i know of no better way than using a break stick.

 

I am not saying you are wrong blan everyone has to make their own choices with their own dogs, and if something works then do it. But all this talk of a dog has no heart because it can be made to leave by the owner without the need for a breaking stick is absolute poo.

 

Two terriers attached face to face, bull x chewing one of the terriers rear legs. Made the bull x leave, cos that is what she had been trained all her life to do when told, then dealt with the terriers in the same manner.

I wont have a dog here with me dictating what i can and cannot have around the place, so i instill from an early age if i say no, it means no, quite simple really, much easier than prising jaws apart with a stick.

 

PS....I've never used the pond yet, but it is always at the back of my mind just incase, as like i say, you can never trust a dog 100%

 

well imo it depends on the type of dog.

 

if certain dogs are fired up nothing short of force will work imo.

 

even if you dont own those types its still better to have and know how to use a break stick just in case,what harm can come of having it handy?

[Moll. 1,777]

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Sorry Chimp, i just cant help myself

 

 

Would someone please lock this topic for a while so i can get some housework done

[chimp 299]

no moll , if you really want to take pics like that its up to you but some manky mxyi rabbit .... you crack on , but judging by both pics you have posted you will never need a stick . atb

[hedz31 1,308]

I always keep a breaking stick about there handy tools sometimes if ye running dogs into large herds or theres plenty game about its the quickest option,i aint keen on letting a dog rag the feck outta edible large quarry i want it off and dealt with quickly and as queitly as possible, i aint into kicking a dog of or shouting at it to let go while i am out, i dont usualy use them when a dog is on a fox but i have had other foxes coming in while one is being dealt with so a breaking stick was handy and quick and it aint just bull cross dogs they can be used on i wonder how some of ye dogs would come of other quarry,and the only time ive left a dog on deer is to see what its made of in a fallow rut thats simply to test the fecker the rest i break off

 

That is the first sensible pro stick post on here.

Well lass i only say it as i have seen it myself i aint gonna lie and say my dogs come of at the flick of my fingers or a down shep like some on here,the only dogs ive seen come of where the ones that jacked with there tails between there legs,i also find it funny with folk on here how they make themselves look stupid with what they say i aint a hardcore lurcherman my bread and butter is terriers but i like to think ive done abit and still do some that have jumped on folk for useing them on here makes me laugh i know who the bloke is behind the profile and he has done more than most on here that have commented will ever come close to thats the thing with thl ye never know who is behind a profile name

[Guest sam]

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Sorry Chimp, i just cant help myself

 

 

Would someone please lock this topic for a while so i can get some housework done

 

not being funny moll but your house must stink like a shit hole with all them animals laying all over the sofa with chickens shitting everywhere

[Moll. 1,777]

@scothunter

 

what about between your own dogs?

 

ive got a very strong little patterdale x that got into a scrap with my own lurcher when it was about 10 months old over a rabbit (he caught it and the lurcher tried to take it),if i hadnt of had a stick to hand it could of been very nasty.

 

as it was the lurcher was in a bad way but survived and made a full recovery.

 

imagine that it was a big deerhound x or something getting hold of a terrier or much smaller lurcher.

 

Been there, done that, but worse, never needed a stick.

 

what did you do then?

 

the terrier will not let go,even if you threw him into water he'd just drown (and take the other dog with him) I know this because he's nearly drowned himself trying to drag a sheep carcass out of a river before (i used a stick then aswell)

 

im not saying i have all the answers but in some situations i know of no better way than using a break stick.

 

I am not saying you are wrong blan everyone has to make their own choices with their own dogs, and if something works then do it. But all this talk of a dog has no heart because it can be made to leave by the owner without the need for a breaking stick is absolute poo.

 

Two terriers attached face to face, bull x chewing one of the terriers rear legs. Made the bull x leave, cos that is what she had been trained all her life to do when told, then dealt with the terriers in the same manner.

I wont have a dog here with me dictating what i can and cannot have around the place, so i instill from an early age if i say no, it means no, quite simple really, much easier than prising jaws apart with a stick.

 

PS....I've never used the pond yet, but it is always at the back of my mind just incase, as like i say, you can never trust a dog 100%

 

well imo it depends on the type of dog.

 

if certain dogs are fired up nothing short of force will work imo.

 

even if you dont own those types its still better to have and know how to use a break stick just in case,what harm can come of having it handy?

 

The type of bull x in question would not have hesitated to kill the dog, she had in the past She was the type to totally zone out on kills, would not let go voluntarily untill any animal was dead, but her respect for me was greater blan

And yes, no harm at all in having a break stick just incase It's the fact some people have to use one on all quarry because they cannot train a dog with fire in its belly and heart to listen to them.

[Moll. 1,777]

you will never need a stick . atb

 

You got that bit right Chimp

 

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Sorry Chimp, i just cant help myself

 

 

Would someone please lock this topic for a while so i can get some housework done

 

not being funny moll but your house must stink like a shit hole with all them animals laying all over the sofa with chickens shitting everywhere

 

You have no idea Sam, cos all those animals live in the house all of the time. I have to supply gas masks and paper suits for people coming in. Foot dips and chemical spray when they leave

[blan89 159]

@scothunter

 

what about between your own dogs?

 

ive got a very strong little patterdale x that got into a scrap with my own lurcher when it was about 10 months old over a rabbit (he caught it and the lurcher tried to take it),if i hadnt of had a stick to hand it could of been very nasty.

 

as it was the lurcher was in a bad way but survived and made a full recovery.

 

imagine that it was a big deerhound x or something getting hold of a terrier or much smaller lurcher.

 

Been there, done that, but worse, never needed a stick.

 

what did you do then?

 

the terrier will not let go,even if you threw him into water he'd just drown (and take the other dog with him) I know this because he's nearly drowned himself trying to drag a sheep carcass out of a river before (i used a stick then aswell)

 

im not saying i have all the answers but in some situations i know of no better way than using a break stick.

 

I am not saying you are wrong blan everyone has to make their own choices with their own dogs, and if something works then do it. But all this talk of a dog has no heart because it can be made to leave by the owner without the need for a breaking stick is absolute poo.

 

Two terriers attached face to face, bull x chewing one of the terriers rear legs. Made the bull x leave, cos that is what she had been trained all her life to do when told, then dealt with the terriers in the same manner.

I wont have a dog here with me dictating what i can and cannot have around the place, so i instill from an early age if i say no, it means no, quite simple really, much easier than prising jaws apart with a stick.

 

PS....I've never used the pond yet, but it is always at the back of my mind just incase, as like i say, you can never trust a dog 100%

 

well imo it depends on the type of dog.

 

if certain dogs are fired up nothing short of force will work imo.

 

even if you dont own those types its still better to have and know how to use a break stick just in case,what harm can come of having it handy?

 

The type of bull x in question would not have hesitated to kill the dog, she had in the past She was the type to totally zone out on kills, would not let go voluntarily untill any animal was dead, but her respect for me was greater blan

And yes, no harm at all in having a break stick just incase It's the fact some people have to use one on all quarry because they cannot train a dog with fire in its belly and heart to listen to them.

 

tbh i still dont think a dog could be conditioned to let go on command when fired up one minute but then be willing to hold on through hell or high water the next.

 

2 different types of personalities imo.

Edited August 30, 2011 by blan89