redpat1 225 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Hi Guys, I have asked for so much advice I feel guilty asking for some more! Hope you lot dont mind? My 5-1/2 month Grey/Deer X Whip has had a change in her behaviour patterns in the last week or so, I was going to ask a few days ago and then we had the wasp incident and I wanted to see how she behaved after, she reverted back and is still acting the same. I think something has changed in her attitude but I am not sure what, She has started taking a real interest in balls and toys and is retrieving them with or without much prompting as well as tossing them around and giving chase, something she wasnt really bothered with before. The other thing is she is constantly pestering my Springer (not that she seems to mind) by chasing her around grabbing her by her tail or forcing her down by running alongside and biting her by the neck!!! I dont think she is using her full strengh and is just playing, I hope. I have also seen her trying to hump her quite a few times recently. Finally my mobile rang when I was out of the room and she jumped up to the shelf grabbed it and threw it around the room until it stopped ringing, I also foung the home phone like it when I came home, I think I had a call while I was out. Thanks for taking the time to read my essay and as always all sensible advice and exprience appreciated. Pat Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 If she wasn't so young I'd say it sounds like she was coming into season.. My little terrier bitch gets funny for a few weeks before she comes in. Typical female mate, temperamental bloody things.. Quote Link to post
tb25 4,627 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 If she wasn't so young I'd say it sounds like she was coming into season.. My little terrier bitch gets funny for a few weeks before she comes in. Typical female mate, temperamental bloody things.. mine came in to season at 6 months,so,maybe Quote Link to post
Casso 1,264 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Hi Guys, I have asked for so much advice I feel guilty asking for some more! Hope you lot dont mind? My 5-1/2 month Grey/Deer X Whip has had a change in her behaviour patterns in the last week or so, I was going to ask a few days ago and then we had the wasp incident and I wanted to see how she behaved after, she reverted back and is still acting the same. I think something has changed in her attitude but I am not sure what, She has started taking a real interest in balls and toys and is retrieving them with or without much prompting as well as tossing them around and giving chase, something she wasnt really bothered with before. The other thing is she is constantly pestering my Springer (not that she seems to mind) by chasing her around grabbing her by her tail or forcing her down by running alongside and biting her by the neck!!! I dont think she is using her full strengh and is just playing, I hope. I have also seen her trying to hump her quite a few times recently. Finally my mobile rang when I was out of the room and she jumped up to the shelf grabbed it and threw it around the room until it stopped ringing, I also foung the home phone like it when I came home, I think I had a call while I was out. Thanks for taking the time to read my essay and as always all sensible advice and exprience appreciated. Pat her drive has kicked in,,enjoy Quote Link to post
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 just a pup being a pup mate.i would be concerned if it wasnt behaving the manner you just described.ATB mate 1 Quote Link to post
redpat1 225 Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 just a pup being a pup mate.i would be concerned if it wasnt behaving the manner you just described.ATB mate I know what you are saying mate, but she was a placid thing before. Its like someone has swapped dogs and I havent realised Quote Link to post
Casso 1,264 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Hi Guys, I have asked for so much advice I feel guilty asking for some more! Hope you lot dont mind? My 5-1/2 month Grey/Deer X Whip has had a change in her behaviour patterns in the last week or so, I was going to ask a few days ago and then we had the wasp incident and I wanted to see how she behaved after, she reverted back and is still acting the same. I think something has changed in her attitude but I am not sure what, She has started taking a real interest in balls and toys and is retrieving them with or without much prompting as well as tossing them around and giving chase, something she wasnt really bothered with before. The other thing is she is constantly pestering my Springer (not that she seems to mind) by chasing her around grabbing her by her tail or forcing her down by running alongside and biting her by the neck!!! I dont think she is using her full strengh and is just playing, I hope. I have also seen her trying to hump her quite a few times recently. Finally my mobile rang when I was out of the room and she jumped up to the shelf grabbed it and threw it around the room until it stopped ringing, I also foung the home phone like it when I came home, I think I had a call while I was out. Thanks for taking the time to read my essay and as always all sensible advice and exprience appreciated. Pat its also the time in her life where everything she been thought goes out the window, she picked up quick on the time and interest invested in the phones too, so she paying attention to whats going on about the place,,use her energy to train her through drive,that is,,get her to do something before you throw a ball for her,,sit ,stay ,come,,whatever it is you want,it will cement the bond between both of you,,best of luck, Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Hormones and trying to find its place in the pack, find ways to channel the energy, use it to your advantage, don,t worry about the play fighting etc but if you think its getting a bit to boisterous remind the pup who,s the leader of the pack Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Pups change a lot as they mature. Yours is getting to an age where her confidence is growing, and it can be tricky maintaining the right balance between keeping her confidence and making sure she doesn't get to think that she's the master of everyone and everything around her. All play is designed to be practice for the real thing once the dog is full grown, so the neck grabbing and pushing down is practice for pulling down game when she's older. If the Springer is allowing this and there's no ill feeling that is fine, but there will come a time when you or the Springer need to put a stop to this type of play: it wouldn't be appropriate for the lurcher to do this to a strange dog, and some lurchers which haven't had the correct type of education have a habit of piling in too roughly on small dogs, even if they aren't actually trying to kill them. Try and socialise her a lot with other dogs, different types of dog, and if necessary, stop the rough play/neck biting. Don't get mad with her, just pull her off the other dog and say No or Leave it. I never leave young dogs loose in the house when I'm not there: they are either crated or in a kennel and run outside: you know the old saying: when the cat's away the mice will play? If they're not loose in the house then they can't get into the habit of behaving inappropriately ( I love that word! :laugh: ). People used to say that a dog was being bad when it did things you didn't want it to do, but the dog isn't being bad, it is just behaving naturally for a dog, which isn't always the way we want it to behave. Put the dog out of temptation's way, and you won't have to correct it for 'being bad'. The humping thing is just part of growing up at this age: hormones are starting to change. It can also mean that a dog is trying to assert its dominance over another, but a lot is play, and if the Springer tolerates it that is fine. What is not fine is if the Springer tells the pup off and she takes no notice, and even retaliates. The puppy 'licence' will run out shortly, and the Springer should be able to put the pup in her place with a warning snap or a growl. Watch to see if this happens, don't tell the Springer off for standing up for itself, but be aware that if the Springer isn't the forceful sort the pup could make her life a misery. Don't let this happen, and intervene if the pup really starts bullying the Springer: some dogs just aren't capable of telling another dog off, often because they have been taught from an early age never to behave aggressively towards other dogs. Quote Link to post
redpat1 225 Posted August 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Thanks Skycat, a comprehensive and informative answer as usual. I will take note and implement your recommendations. ATB Pat Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 EVERYTHINGS NEW TO HER SOUNDS VERY INQUISITIVE.ATB WITH HER Quote Link to post
whippetlad1976 33 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 just a pup being a pup mate.i would be concerned if it wasnt behaving the manner you just described.ATB mate I know what you are saying mate, but she was a placid thing before. Its like someone has swapped dogs and I havent realised my mrs is placid till it hits time of the month then all hell breaks loose as was said poss coming in first season or just the next stage of puphood (PAIN IN THE f*****g ARSE PUP) Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted August 17, 2011 Report Share Posted August 17, 2011 Pups change a lot as they mature. Yours is getting to an age where her confidence is growing, and it can be tricky maintaining the right balance between keeping her confidence and making sure she doesn't get to think that she's the master of everyone and everything around her. All play is designed to be practice for the real thing once the dog is full grown, so the neck grabbing and pushing down is practice for pulling down game when she's older. If the Springer is allowing this and there's no ill feeling that is fine, but there will come a time when you or the Springer need to put a stop to this type of play: it wouldn't be appropriate for the lurcher to do this to a strange dog, and some lurchers which haven't had the correct type of education have a habit of piling in too roughly on small dogs, even if they aren't actually trying to kill them. Try and socialise her a lot with other dogs, different types of dog, and if necessary, stop the rough play/neck biting. Don't get mad with her, just pull her off the other dog and say No or Leave it. I never leave young dogs loose in the house when I'm not there: they are either crated or in a kennel and run outside: you know the old saying: when the cat's away the mice will play? If they're not loose in the house then they can't get into the habit of behaving inappropriately ( I love that word! :laugh: ). People used to say that a dog was being bad when it did things you didn't want it to do, but the dog isn't being bad, it is just behaving naturally for a dog, which isn't always the way we want it to behave. Put the dog out of temptation's way, and you won't have to correct it for 'being bad'. The humping thing is just part of growing up at this age: hormones are starting to change. It can also mean that a dog is trying to assert its dominance over another, but a lot is play, and if the Springer tolerates it that is fine. What is not fine is if the Springer tells the pup off and she takes no notice, and even retaliates. The puppy 'licence' will run out shortly, and the Springer should be able to put the pup in her place with a warning snap or a growl. Watch to see if this happens, don't tell the Springer off for standing up for itself, but be aware that if the Springer isn't the forceful sort the pup could make her life a misery. Don't let this happen, and intervene if the pup really starts bullying the Springer: some dogs just aren't capable of telling another dog off, often because they have been taught from an early age never to behave aggressively towards other dogs. My whippet is so game for scraping with any dog, but the pup hangs of his neck bites scratches growls and barks, he tried telling her off but she just wont and he wines when she hurts her, time for me to step in? also when she retaliates to another dog do i tell her off or let them settle it! Quote Link to post
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