judge2010 196 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 cull them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 i was posting a quote from rob mate lol "I think your just being different for being differents sake to be honest mate." quote from rob! It was me who said that about Rob.....but never mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 i have never once said we dont kill innocent people.we do our best to min it,but yes innocent people do die in war.your very quick to say we are blinded by propaganda and what were fed and what we would rather believe.well mate there a flip side to that coin aswell.there plenty propaganda comes from muslim nations and there are always plenty of f*****g do gooders and hand wringers in this country who preach it.It never fails to suprise me,that people born and bred in the uk are so very quick to condem the actions of thier own country.i find that whole idea bizzare I wasn't aiming that at you, I was aiming it at gnasher16...he seems to think we don't kill civilians. Let me just clear up what I was trying to say cos it's getting a bit boring now... We used to copy things we saw on telly, be it cowboys and indians, soldiers, fighter planes, whatever....all of these things involve killing people. We didn't know whether it was right or wrong, nor did we even think about it, all we saw was things that we thought looked cool so we copied them. Those kids will have seen bombings on the telly, no doubt glorified or put in a positive light by the media over there. They'll have seen bombing, thought it looked cool so copied it in a game. That's all, it's not some training camp for future bombers, it's a few kids copying what they've seen on telly. If those kids saw cowboys and indians on telly they'd probably copy that aswell. I never condemmed what our country is doing, not for one minute. I agree, there's plenty of people that do, but I'm not one of them. But what I don't do is totally ignore facts, or quote facts that are absolute b'llocks....like gnasher16 saying that the allies don't kill civilians, it's simply not true. We are blinded by propaganda, but I would guess nowhere near as much as they are over in the middle east...but it is a guess, because all we know is what we're told by the media and the government. There are videos out there of very young people being trained to be suicide bombers, and those are shocking....but this video of kids playing isn't one of them, that's all I was saying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 ok fair doos ,well id be questioning the wicked c**ts who would allow kids to play such a game.if it was only in jest that is.I was not for the war in iraq from the start,but the min the first standard issue british army boot set foot on that soil i supported the troops.Afghanastan i did support and thought it was just. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 But what I don't do is totally ignore facts, or quote facts that are absolute b'llocks....like gnasher16 saying that the allies don't kill civilians, it's simply not true. Sorry chief,can i just get this straight in my own nut......so are you saying that " we " SPECIFICALLY TARGET innocent muslim women and children to kill,the way they do to us ?....im not talking about people getting caught in the crossfire so to speak,im talking about specifically setting out to kill innocents ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 cull them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 i was posting a quote from rob mate lol "I think your just being different for being differents sake to be honest mate." quote from rob! It was me who said that about Rob.....but never mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 But what I don't do is totally ignore facts, or quote facts that are absolute b'llocks....like gnasher16 saying that the allies don't kill civilians, it's simply not true. Sorry chief,can i just get this straight in my own nut......so are you saying that " we " SPECIFICALLY TARGET innocent muslim women and children to kill,the way they do to us ?....im not talking about people getting caught in the crossfire so to speak,im talking about specifically setting out to kill innocents ? Kind of yes, when the a village is bombed for whatever reason, because they suspect a military leader is hiding out there or whatever, the people pressing the buttons know for a fact that civilians are there and will be killed. That's not my opinion, that's fact. They're not specifically targeting them, but their deaths aren't accidental......but that's war! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Kind of yes, when the a village is bombed for whatever reason, because they suspect a military leader is hiding out there or whatever, the people pressing the buttons know for a fact that civilians are there and will be killed. That's not my opinion, that's fact. They're not specifically targeting them, but their deaths aren't accidental......but that's war! And do you see that the same as a bunch of muslims getting on a train or a central London bus knowing full well there is no military on it....in other words specifically targetting non military people ?....i just cant see any comparison there myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blan89 159 Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Kind of yes, when the a village is bombed for whatever reason, because they suspect a military leader is hiding out there or whatever, the people pressing the buttons know for a fact that civilians are there and will be killed. That's not my opinion, that's fact. They're not specifically targeting them, but their deaths aren't accidental......but that's war! And do you see that the same as a bunch of muslims getting on a train or a central London bus knowing full well there is no military on it....in other words specifically targetting non military people ?....i just cant see any comparison there myself. not to defend them,but im pretty sure this was mimicking a suicide bomber blowing up soldiers. the way they stop him then he raises his skirt up to show theres no bomb (as a patrol would make him),then runs towards them and blows them up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob190364 2,594 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 The only thing I would say about it, having watched it again...it does seem to be a bit too orchestrated to be just a few kids playing. I hadn't really thought about it until blan said about him raising his skirt to show no bombs, wouldn't have thought kids would know about that. And the angle that they're filming it from kind of looks like it's an adult filming it rather than kids.....which is pretty bad if that's the case because it isn't just kids playing around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 ... I never condemmed what our country is doing, not for one minute. I agree, there's plenty of people that do, but I'm not one of them. But what I don't do is totally ignore facts, or quote facts that are absolute b'llocks....like gnasher16 saying that the allies don't kill civilians, it's simply not true. ... I hear what you're saying but there's a world of difference between the Allies accidentally killing civilians trying to eliminate the enemy, and terrorists who kill civilian targets to try and get what they want. Well IMO there is anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 lol at arguing over kids playing war games So Gnasher, all suicide bombers target innocent people ? As if lol. We have the money for weapons, they have no money, but a lot of willing people that don't want us in THEIR country killing their families and friends. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) lol at arguing over kids playing war games So Gnasher, all suicide bombers target innocent people ? As if lol. We have the money for weapons, they have no money, but a lot of willing people that don't want us in THEIR country killing their families and friends. Where did i say that ?...i was referring to the London 7/7 bombings,and yes every single victim of that was an innocent person.......and just the same as they dont want us in their country,well i dont want them in my country either but im stuck with them....the only difference being,they LIVE here !! Edited June 21, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) "a kid pretending to murder thousands of innocent people" Well, you implied that these kids, you know the ones having fun, playing a game. Were playing at blowing up "1000s" of innocent people. They weren't, they were playing at blowing up an invading armies check point. I often wonder what you lot of hard men border line rasists would do if france invaded us, and had there army all over blighty. Edited June 21, 2011 by Paid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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