bird 10,014 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 good vid , no dout about it border collies are very clever dogs, with good feet,coat, and good wind for that kind of job (sheep). But there hell of alot collies with soft temps today, that you dont need in a lurcher x.I know some work cattle, and are of hard temps, and its these that you need for your lurchers xs. Like i said on another post, maybe a touch of ACD or Kelpie in some borders might solve this. I think that was one of the reasonf Dave sleight put kelpie back to his borders to make a tougher type collie. Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 . an excellent bit, of work by the good ole collie, and the Handler, he was working his dog well, (( the look back command is very important on a rough HILL, the work you saw there by that dog it would take 5 men and more to do and even then the sheep, would make a fool out of them, (( THE OLD BLACKFACE HORNIE, originally, the Blackface from Lanark, (((( now put your whippet x on there and he would be in a serious state when finished, am Talking about working that ground,not sheep work, ((( is that up in Donegall, near Killybegs?????? that is very rough ground the stone is Granite, and some have very sharp edges, then you have patches of pure soft bog, ((( you could disappear if you walked into it, thank you for the video, and maybe some people who doubt the stamina and running ability of a good collie, may think again, Quote Link to post
Blue one 89 Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 . an excellent bit, of work by the good ole collie, and the Handler, he was working his dog well, (( the look back command is very important on a rough HILL, the work you saw there by that dog it would take 5 men and more to do and even then the sheep, would make a fool out of them, (( THE OLD BLACKFACE HORNIE, originally, the Blackface from Lanark, (((( now put your whippet x on there and he would be in a serious state when finished, am Talking about working that ground,not sheep work, ((( is that up in Donegall, near Killybegs?????? that is very rough ground the stone is Granite, and some have very sharp edges, then you have patches of pure soft bog, ((( you could disappear if you walked into it, thank you for the video, and maybe some people who doubt the stamina and running ability of a good collie, may think again, His a very hardy collie..!! Agree, its some of the toughest land here in Ireland!!! Bird, his not soft, that's all i will say. Quote Link to post
CarraghsGem 92 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 . an excellent bit, of work by the good ole collie, and the Handler, he was working his dog well, (( the look back command is very important on a rough HILL, the work you saw there by that dog it would take 5 men and more to do and even then the sheep, would make a fool out of them, (( THE OLD BLACKFACE HORNIE, originally, the Blackface from Lanark, (((( now put your whippet x on there and he would be in a serious state when finished, am Talking about working that ground,not sheep work, ((( is that up in Donegall, near Killybegs?????? that is very rough ground the stone is Granite, and some have very sharp edges, then you have patches of pure soft bog, ((( you could disappear if you walked into it, thank you for the video, and maybe some people who doubt the stamina and running ability of a good collie, may think again, His a very hardy collie..!! Agree, its some of the toughest land here in Ireland!!! Bird, his not soft, that's all i will say. hes a good dog alrite, what most dont know is that a properly bred working sheepdog will thrive in conditions and terrain that would kill most other dogs my collie bitch slept out in the snow through the winter despite having the choice of the shed and her own kennel, she would work herself to death if she was let. Quote Link to post
dai dogs 2,141 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 thats the type to breed lurchers from . good mountain working collie. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Thank you for putting that on here. That dog is seriously grafting! And a lot of reluctant sheep for one dog: makes the TV prgramme One Man and His Dog look somewhat tame Proper sheep dog. Quote Link to post
Blue one 89 Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Thank you for putting that on here. That dog is seriously grafting! And a lot of reluctant sheep for one dog: makes the TV prgramme One Man and His Dog look somewhat tame Proper sheep dog. Thanks. His a good one and will be the one, in my opinion, to put over a good, greyhound bitch, not, just any greyhound! Below, some soft work for him, near his farm. He works on very hard, tough ground, his feet, are like Iron!! Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 12,023 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 fair turn of speed you ever clocked him with the 4x4 Quote Link to post
morton 5,369 Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 good vid , no dout about it border collies are very clever dogs, with good feet,coat, and good wind for that kind of job (sheep). But there hell of alot collies with soft temps today, that you dont need in a lurcher x.I know some work cattle, and are of hard temps, and its these that you need for your lurchers xs. Like i said on another post, maybe a touch of ACD or Kelpie in some borders might solve this. I think that was one of the reasonf Dave sleight put kelpie back to his borders to make a tougher type collie. Any poor quality Borders about will not be farm dogs,only the elite of the breed make it as working dogs,these are the ones that should be utilised in any lurcher breeding.Having to use inferior type Collies is a sure sign of second rate breeding. Quote Link to post
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