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iv never had a dog capable of taking hares on the lamp full stop let alone big numbers,ok iv had a couple here and there over the years but these were stumbled upon with a very short slip and been caught within 150m or so,once they got up and running they soon made my dogs look silly and were gone,ok the lay of the land, fields with features slight uphill and downhill inclines,with a lot of flint in places all worked in the hares favour as they were soon out the beam and away but even if it was flat as a snooker table mine would not have caught them anyway,never had a dog built for running them just shit bull xs and never worth getting the dog cut up attempting to run them purposefully, and round here them hares can f*****g fly even on the lamp,although many a time if they new my dogs capabilities,or rather lack of, they need not worry to much :D

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Crobinc (big zook) you know nothing, hares aint easy to catch on the lamp, maybe not as hard as daytime but they still shift and can be very dificult to keep in the beam .

good thread this im surprised its never been posted before yes hares are easier to catch on the lamp so are foxes and rabbits and no one ever moaned about doing that :hmm: i can safely say ive caugh

I would disagree, regular lamped hares know what theyre doing and are harder to catch, fresh hares that havent seen a dog offer no challenge, got it wrong way round imo. I can see both sides, If I li

who has a dog or dogs which could have done or could do a decent amount of hares in the lamp pre ban running big open winter wheat feilds ,

and as for my lab or springer would keep them to yourself

Depending on the time of the year :thumbdown: A decent collie or alsation could catch a decent amount of hares,on the lamp.Lamped hares = a big NO SHOW in my books.But if you enjoy :icon_eek: the advantage you have,against a lamped hare :thumbdown: then ,enjoy.

 

time of year??read the post winter wheat i said ,december,jan,feb and you can bring your collie or alsation down any time this week and we will see ,i agree not as hard as daylight by no means but the dont hang around in the lamp on big feilds no fences or walls and long grass here ,

Well said :thumbs: .However :no: i have found that winter or summer hares, that have been lamped on a regular basis,offer no challenge to a good running dog :hmm: therefore i refuse to run my dog on lamped hares .

 

As I have said.I dont run hares under the lamp.purley because thats how I have been brought up but I have nothing against it and its each man to his own sport.

I would much rather see a hare lamped and taken with a lurcher than shot with a rifle at night or a shotgun by day.

But I do have to suggest if you have found that winter hares show no challenge to a good running dog then you have never ran a good one at night and certainly not on big land.

Although I dont run my dogs on them at night I have seen some very good daytime fen dogs have to work very hard to kill them under the lamp and they are not always successful.

On big land a good winter hare that knows its ground can soon be out of range of a good lamp and when he can acheive this its hat off to old sally as far as I'm concerned.

 

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Fairplay crobinc you got a few acounts. If you only like doing them in the daytime well do them then and fuk off.

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The woman isa prick check her old posts you dick

Look pal :wallbash: unless you can answer the questions posted :thumbs: and reply with an answer that can be backed up,with proof/reasoning :censored: ,then piss off and go play with the cars on the motorway, :tongue2: cos your`e not helping.

 

 

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who has a dog or dogs which could have done or could do a decent amount of hares in the lamp pre ban running big open winter wheat feilds ,

and as for my lab or springer would keep them to yourself

Depending on the time of the year :thumbdown: A decent collie or alsation could catch a decent amount of hares,on the lamp.Lamped hares = a big NO SHOW in my books.But if you enjoy :icon_eek: the advantage you have,against a lamped hare :thumbdown: then ,enjoy.

 

time of year??read the post winter wheat i said ,december,jan,feb and you can bring your collie or alsation down any time this week and we will see ,i agree not as hard as daylight by no means but the dont hang around in the lamp on big feilds no fences or walls and long grass here ,

Well said :thumbs: .However :no: i have found that winter or summer hares, that have been lamped on a regular basis,offer no challenge to a good running dog :hmm: therefore i refuse to run my dog on lamped hares .

 

I would disagree, regular lamped hares know what theyre doing and are harder to catch, fresh hares that havent seen a dog offer no challenge, got it wrong way round imo.

I can see both sides, If I lived nr open land like fen, etc, then I wouldnt lamp them, where I am the fields are small, fences, hedges, orchards, plenty of hares at night, daytime struggle to find them consistantly, so I do lamp them round abouts nr home, for the fact to get my dogs fit. Some can run alright even on lamp, round here they know their runs, sometimes they are easy sometimes they are not, sometimes they run into motor on the track, sometimes they get theyre ears down and break for the wood, depends on weather too, I would not lamp the land I walked daytime full stop. But I wouldnt knock anyone for doing it, its free country after all, every man for himself, who cares what the other man thinks, I know some good day dogs that cant catch on lamp here, but go to fen in day and never blank, its different running, they havent the time to do theyre normal job, a whippet will catch them here easier than a big fen dog, its also a good way to sharpen them up.

 

Alot of you lot on here that slate running them on lamp, sit there with dogs in kennels, waiting for right weather/ground, winter hares, then when dogs dont do ebverything say your dogs are not fit, run them on the lamp then they will be fit, just dont do it on coursing land, simple. Agreed lamping can mess up some dogs if too young, but its up to the owner to make decision whether to or not, some need it some dont, but it can give dogs confidence if they are not picking up etc, some get used to lamped hares and end up jacking in day, what you have to remember is all dogs are different.

 

Lampings alot less hassle too, less witnesses lol. well id rather lamp them for sport, than have no sport at all, good crack imo. And yes I am dedicated day walker on big land 400 miles for the big land for me. I got hares behind my house for lamping if I wanted. A true dog man will do whats best for the dog, not whats best for the hare.:thumbs:

 

 

so what your saying at the beginning is, you run your dogs at night, to get them fit. Yet they struggle to find them in the day. why? Your talking about getting your dogs fit, and other peoples not being fit because the kennel them If your dogs were fit enough mate, they would work the hares up in the day time.. Then you say you are a big day walker. So what are your dogs doing if they arent finding the hares in the daytime, yet there are plenty about at hight. you contradict yourself over and over mate. Not arguing, just couldnt see your point at all.

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you get agood winter fit hare running away from lamp useing the contours of the land and tell me it is easy not ive had as much in the day as the nite , when it was leagal we lamped and ran daylite some feilds with lamp useless better for daylite , ive hunted big land most of my life and saw lots of dogs who coulnt catch astrong winter hare at nite not fast enough or clebver , smal feilds like in cumbria caut plenty but big sown land takes agood dog

 

dnt no where u run in cumbria mate, but the fields i run aint small fileds. most of the fields are uphill and the hares uses this to its advantage, and the fields are surrounded by dry stone walls and stock fencing, so while hares has runs through these obstacles, a dog has to jump them, and most of the fields have woods nearby so if a hare gets into these its as good as gone :thumbs: just out of curiosity whin, were did you run? because if you want if you ever come to cumbria often then i will tell you where to get some good runs :thumbs: pm me if you want

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Stone walled feilds are easy to lamp, if you know where the hares are heading..

 

I think if you know your ground well you can narrow the hares chances right down..

 

 

I have lamped often in cumbria...

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the big factor everyone seems to forget is that the dogs people run on the lamp are predominently LAMPERS,,,,,,,,,

the other thing i dont get why cant people do day and night?

i love both,,,,,,,,

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the big factor everyone seems to forget is that the dogs people run on the lamp are predominently LAMPERS,,,,,,,,,

the other thing i dont get why cant people do day and night?

i love both,,,,,,,,

 

amen to that mate,,, i love both also done alot of daywalking this last month or so,, also ferreting and bushing ,,, i get alot of fun and enjoyment out of all these methods of hunting.

 

as for stone walled fields i love them :icon_redface:

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