ALLROUND LURCHERS

[bunnys 1,236]

PS you have a very good point there wurzil, youth keeness coupled with the right animal sometimes it may be nothing spectacular bred on paper ,but time spent in the woods fields etc can and does get ya the best dogs .man and dog has one , yes i have seen this on more than one occasion , dogs are like people a gem comes along every now and then . good luck bunnys

[bunnys 1,236]

brain can be looked at in several ways biddable ,working brain , for that type of specific cross. myself i prefer the working brain with the right dogs being biddable his part and parcel of the said dog .marvellous how nature produces really bright biddable and quick thinking dogs from several generations of workers ,each generation seems to get smarter and , if the best to best breeding policy has been followed better in the field myself when i kept the lurcher dog ,would allways opt for something bred fromseveral generations of lurchers to lurchers . ONE of my favourite crosses was the alsation grey dogs.

[SMART DOG 340]

Well seem as though i have started this thread i should voice my 2 pence worth.

 

This is what i would call my ideal all-round lurcher

 

must take all quarry

 

Ferreting the dog must give solid marks,be steady and sensible and work well around the bury catching bolting rabbits and work well with the longnets,

 

Lamping the dog would have to run the entire beam find the hidden quarry catch and retrieve if it misses its quarry return straight away no hunting up

 

general mooching (which is what i do most) the dog needs to run sensible have a solid nose work the cover follow quarry that has recently moved on work the reeds well finding flushing catching and retrieving the game if that is possible

 

i dont mind some dogs that are head strong but as long as the dog know's its place :thumbs:

[HALTY LAD 92]

there's one thing a good all rounder most have and that is a good brain.

Well that is true, but drive goes hand in hand with brain.

 

To Me, an all rounder is a dog that can catch all game. Maybe not a master at any one quarry, maybe better on some than others, but will regularly catch the FULL spectrum of game available.

 

I personally ended up going down the route of more specialised dogs, as in the past I always was an All-round hunter and went for whatever got up in front of me, but when I pushed the dogs hard at one particular quarry for any length of time, weaknesses start to appear, and so I now look for a dog bred for the jobs I do mostly.

[undisputed 1,664]

The traditional All Rounder was expected work long nets mark warrens take fur and feather day or night, work up quarry on its own work with ferrets.

[johnny boy68 11,726]

there's one thing a good all rounder most have and that is a good brain.

And a good dog person owning it to put it on enough game to class it as an all rounder

[lurcherman 28]

For a dog to become a "true all rounder" then the owner will have to work that dog very hard and very often and invariably will be running the gauntlet of the law in the present climate.Though there are probably a few still around you won't hear of them The boys doing all the "stuff" don't broadcast themselves or their dogs these days

 

 

i couldent have put it better myself, exacally my point mate,

[morton 5,369]

I have an acquaintance who will set off for a days mooching with a lurcher,terrier and ferret.The terrain consists of fields,woods moorland and riversides.He never knows what will be pushed up but expects the lurcher to deal with each and every occurence,the bag can vary enormously on each occasion.This to me is what is expected of an allrounder.I don,t count longnetting as a requisit of a lurchers work,the old time longnetters i knew wanted a dog that drew no attention,the dogs they used where basically medium sized street mongrels,all they had to do was work the land pushing towards the net,they had no need for a picking up type.The best allrounders IMO had to have Collie blood,my preference was always Collie/Grey-Deerhound/Grey.

[merle24 61]

No such thing.

[HALTY LAD 92]

No such thing.

Everyones view of an all rounder will be different, and to some there IS such a thing!

[SMART DOG 340]

No such thing.

Everyones view of an all rounder will be different, and to some there IS such a thing!

So am i right in saying that everyman will have his idea of an all-rounder but that dog may not be classed as an all-rounder by others ?

[ribb 15]

all rounder it a myth it doesnae exist its all in the mind of fools

[chartpolski 27,401]

This question was asked before on a site, and I answered using Daley Thompson as an analogy. He was the greatest all round athlete in history, (my oppinion)! He could do every discipline of the decathlon VERY well, but he could not live with the specialist runners, jumpers and throwers ! So in my mind, an "allrounder" dog, should be able to do most things well, but won't be as good as a specialed coursing dog, or a foxing dog or a deer dog; it should be able to work with ferrets, lamp,etc., and be a generaly good all round moocher, a dog that can be used in almost all situations, and may not be the best, but won't let you down !! But of course that is just MY opinion of an "allrounder", others may have different opinions !

 

Cheers.

[hickymick 37]

Well seem as though i have started this thread i should voice my 2 pence worth.

 

This is what i would call my ideal all-round lurcher

 

must take all quarry

 

Ferreting the dog must give solid marks,be steady and sensible and work well around the bury catching bolting rabbits and work well with the longnets,

 

Lamping the dog would have to run the entire beam find the hidden quarry catch and retrieve if it misses its quarry return straight away no hunting up

 

general mooching (which is what i do most) the dog needs to run sensible have a solid nose work the cover follow quarry that has recently moved on work the reeds well finding flushing catching and retrieving the game if that is possible

 

i dont mind some dogs that are head strong but as long as the dog know's its place :thumbs:

you forgot broken to all live stock as if it wasnt your permish would soon disapear lol

[SMART DOG 340]

Well seem as though i have started this thread i should voice my 2 pence worth.

 

This is what i would call my ideal all-round lurcher

 

must take all quarry

 

Ferreting the dog must give solid marks,be steady and sensible and work well around the bury catching bolting rabbits and work well with the longnets,

 

Lamping the dog would have to run the entire beam find the hidden quarry catch and retrieve if it misses its quarry return straight away no hunting up

 

general mooching (which is what i do most) the dog needs to run sensible have a solid nose work the cover follow quarry that has recently moved on work the reeds well finding flushing catching and retrieving the game if that is possible

 

i dont mind some dogs that are head strong but as long as the dog know's its place :thumbs:

you forgot broken to all live stock as if it wasnt your permish would soon disapear lol

 

that would go without saying