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My understanding (from Field Trial and Competitive Sled Dog people) is that a dog runs best on an empty stomach and that you want about 24hrs between it's last meal and the heavy work.

 

To avoid Gastric Torsion aka 'bloat' (from Field Trialers and Vets), feed no later than two hours before work and no sooner than one hour after work.

 

Never run a lurcher so I don't know if it's an apples to apples comparison. However my Bird Dogs have always run hard and well following the above rules. Pretty much every other person's Bird Dog I've seen run is spent in two hours or less. Mine go hard 5+hrs.

sounds about right to me :thumbs: all this bollox comparing dogs to marathon runners :blink: theyre dogs ffs not humans :thumbs:

i can see you have never seen a dog to a proper hard nights work.

i can see you lack intelligence and youve no idea what your talking about

never as the name trigger seemed so appropriate :blink:

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I AM RIGHT THEN.

 

you can keep your so called intelligence. i will stick to common sense which you seem to be lacking.

listen,i aint getting into a petty argument with some know nothing keyboard hunter who doesnt know when to feed his own dogs :blink: as for intelligence and common sense,it seems to me that you couldnt pour piss out of a boot....with the instructions written on the heel, :feck:

 

 

lol :D

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I guess a lot depends on how often you work your dog and it's diet..   A dog can run on empty as long as it has fat reserves to draw it's energy from. If you work your dog often and for extended pe

i think if youve got to put electrolyte or any other supplements in the water before a dog goes out then theres something wrong with the dog as a good healthy dog shouldnt need any extra supplements b

i agree i dont see why you should giv a running dog any supplements before a nights lamping it should be fit and ready, maybe near the end off the night after some hard runs. but thats just my opinion

My understanding (from Field Trial and Competitive Sled Dog people) is that a dog runs best on an empty stomach and that you want about 24hrs between it's last meal and the heavy work.

 

To avoid Gastric Torsion aka 'bloat' (from Field Trialers and Vets), feed no later than two hours before work and no sooner than one hour after work.

 

Never run a lurcher so I don't know if it's an apples to apples comparison. However my Bird Dogs have always run hard and well following the above rules. Pretty much every other person's Bird Dog I've seen run is spent in two hours or less. Mine go hard 5+hrs.

sounds about right to me :thumbs: all this bollox comparing dogs to marathon runners :blink: theyre dogs ffs not humans :thumbs:

i can see you have never seen a dog to a proper hard nights work.

i can see you lack intelligence and youve no idea what your talking about

never as the name trigger seemed so appropriate :blink:

:laugh:

I AM RIGHT THEN.

 

you can keep your so called intelligence. i will stick to common sense which you seem to be lacking.

listen,i aint getting into a petty argument with some know nothing keyboard hunter who doesnt know when to feed his own dogs :blink: as for intelligence and common sense,it seems to me that you couldnt pour piss out of a boot....with the instructions written on the heel, :feck:

do you piss in boots do you, thats intelligence for ya. i piss in a toilet thats common sense for ya.

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Recently bin feeding my dogs bout half 7 in morning and ive noticed that when out lampin they aint got as much fire in em as if i was to feed 10 oclock the nite before they just seem to run harder. Half portion on return rest first thing next morning plus a little extra beef with fat trimmings. Just do what works best for you could argue about this all week ha. Everybody has ther own opinions

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My understanding (from Field Trial and Competitive Sled Dog people) is that a dog runs best on an empty stomach and that you want about 24hrs between it's last meal and the heavy work.

 

To avoid Gastric Torsion aka 'bloat' (from Field Trialers and Vets), feed no later than two hours before work and no sooner than one hour after work.

 

Never run a lurcher so I don't know if it's an apples to apples comparison. However my Bird Dogs have always run hard and well following the above rules. Pretty much every other person's Bird Dog I've seen run is spent in two hours or less. Mine go hard 5+hrs.

sounds about right to me :thumbs: all this bollox comparing dogs to marathon runners :blink: theyre dogs ffs not humans :thumbs:

i can see you have never seen a dog to a proper hard nights work.

i can see you lack intelligence and youve no idea what your talking about

never as the name trigger seemed so appropriate :blink:

:laugh:

I AM RIGHT THEN.

 

you can keep your so called intelligence. i will stick to common sense which you seem to be lacking.

listen,i aint getting into a petty argument with some know nothing keyboard hunter who doesnt know when to feed his own dogs :blink: as for intelligence and common sense,it seems to me that you couldnt pour piss out of a boot....with the instructions written on the heel, :feck:

I ain't to jumping to peoples defence but craigyboy you couldn't be more wrong about trigger being a keyboard warrior.The lad is probably out hunting more than a lot of peeps :yes: his dog gets worked hard,very hard and to a very high standard aswell.Just because you don't agree with somebody dosen't make them a keyboard hunter not taking sides just stating facts. :thumbs:

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Recently bin feeding my dogs bout half 7 in morning and ive noticed that when out lampin they aint got as much fire in em as if i was to feed 10 oclock the nite before they just seem to run harder. Half portion on return rest first thing next morning plus a little extra beef with fat trimmings. Just do what works best for you could argue about this all week ha. Everybody has ther own opinions

your probably right mate the dog would be sharper if he was with out food for 24 hours (ok for an easy night )but on an hard night the cracks would start to show early,myself i would sooner a dog start steady and still be there at the end of the night,a starved dog would run flat out at the beginning, where a dog with a bit of food in his gut is more likely to start off a bit steadier,theres one thing horses dogs and humans have got in common to get the best out of our selfs we all need to warm up

is that why i allways start slow and am the strongest at the end of the night when we go lamping because my guts is full of redbull :laugh:

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craigyboy... you should have a chat with trigger,and really get to know him,He,s a top lad.

I would go as far as to say this...Take your dog down and go out with trigger and his old dog.You do what you think is best and see who has still got a dog left at the end of the night... if you do what you say is correct and not feed your dog before the nights expedition i will personally bet my own money that your dog will drop on its bollox before triggers has even got warmed up. if you think it could last the whole night running as hard as his dog without fuel... you will be eating humble pie.

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Recently bin feeding my dogs bout half 7 in morning and ive noticed that when out lampin they aint got as much fire in em as if i was to feed 10 oclock the nite before they just seem to run harder. Half portion on return rest first thing next morning plus a little extra beef with fat trimmings. Just do what works best for you could argue about this all week ha. Everybody has ther own opinions

your probably right mate the dog would be sharper if he was with out food for 24 hours (ok for an easy night )but on an hard night the cracks would start to show early,myself i would sooner a dog start steady and still be there at the end of the night,a starved dog would run flat out at the beginning, where a dog with a bit of food in his gut is more likely to start off a bit steadier,theres one thing horses dogs and humans have got in common to get the best out of our selfs we all need to warm up

is that why i allways start slow and am the strongest at the end of the night when we go lamping because my guts is full of redbull :laugh:

no its because your lazy b*****d and you make me do all the work, ps ask any one

ha ha ha ....my names not colin

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Recently bin feeding my dogs bout half 7 in morning and ive noticed that when out lampin they aint got as much fire in em as if i was to feed 10 oclock the nite before they just seem to run harder. Half portion on return rest first thing next morning plus a little extra beef with fat trimmings. Just do what works best for you could argue about this all week ha. Everybody has ther own opinions

your probably right mate the dog would be sharper if he was with out food for 24 hours (ok for an easy night )but on an hard night the cracks would start to show early,myself i would sooner a dog start steady and still be there at the end of the night,a starved dog would run flat out at the beginning, where a dog with a bit of food in his gut is more likely to start off a bit steadier,theres one thing horses dogs and humans have got in common to get the best out of our selfs we all need to warm up

is that why i allways start slow and am the strongest at the end of the night when we go lamping because my guts is full of redbull :laugh:

no its because your lazy b*****d and you make me do all the work, ps ask any one

ha ha ha ....my names not colin

I heard that FLINT goes through more boots than you in a season DEERMAN :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: but you have better eyes :tongue2:

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Recently bin feeding my dogs bout half 7 in morning and ive noticed that when out lampin they aint got as much fire in em as if i was to feed 10 oclock the nite before they just seem to run harder. Half portion on return rest first thing next morning plus a little extra beef with fat trimmings. Just do what works best for you could argue about this all week ha. Everybody has ther own opinions

your probably right mate the dog would be sharper if he was with out food for 24 hours (ok for an easy night )but on an hard night the cracks would start to show early,myself i would sooner a dog start steady and still be there at the end of the night,a starved dog would run flat out at the beginning, where a dog with a bit of food in his gut is more likely to start off a bit steadier,theres one thing horses dogs and humans have got in common to get the best out of our selfs we all need to warm up

is that why i allways start slow and am the strongest at the end of the night when we go lamping because my guts is full of redbull :laugh:

no its because your lazy b*****d and you make me do all the work, ps ask any one

ha ha ha ....my names not colin

I heard that FLINT goes through more boots than you in a season DEERMAN :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: but you have better eyes :tongue2:

i wear a pair out everytime i go out with him as i do all the carrying ....and your right about eyes unless hes had redbull :D

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i was told by the farm vet to feed my dog in the morning so if i go lampin the dog has an empty stomach as greyhound whippets and lurcher can twist there stomach as it is so much higher than the chest.

the vet tells you the worst possible out come just to cover there selves.

 

just because a vets told you something it doesnt always mean they are right. :thumbs:

:thumbs: i agree 100% i once took my old boy in to the vet as one of his toes were really swollen and sore to touch and was told it was brokken and infected and would need amputating... knowing this was absolute crap i tried a different vet who found it to be the tip of a thorn that had embeded itself deep in.

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why feed your dog when it gets back from a hard nights work would you run a marathon on an empty stomach

 

doe's a wolf go hunting with half a belly full :blink: no. you carnt compare dogs to humans, dogs run much better on an empty stomach as long as yhere getting good grub no point in just feeding biscuit they need abit extra

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SOME lads i have known feed a full meal at tea time 5pm ish, with no ill efects, the thing to remember is if your lamping after midnight , the food that went in will be out of the stomach anyway, and in the small intestine,, and be well digested of course this depends on what they have eat. big chunks of bone would take longer to digest, but you wouldnt feed that. but regular minced beef/lamb/chicken , and meal would be broke down.

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why feed your dog when it gets back from a hard nights work would you run a marathon on an empty stomach

 

doe's a wolf go hunting with half a belly full :blink: no. you carnt compare dogs to humans, dogs run much better on an empty stomach as long as yhere getting good grub no point in just feeding biscuit they need abit extra

 

Wolves hunt to eat,then rest until hungry again. Hard worked lamp dogs run on and on way past what is needed to acquire a meal-they need something in the tank to draw on. Flints sprinter/marathon analogy sums it up.

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