captain jack sparrow 8 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 My understanding (from Field Trial and Competitive Sled Dog people) is that a dog runs best on an empty stomach and that you want about 24hrs between it's last meal and the heavy work. To avoid Gastric Torsion aka 'bloat' (from Field Trialers and Vets), feed no later than two hours before work and no sooner than one hour after work. Never run a lurcher so I don't know if it's an apples to apples comparison. However my Bird Dogs have always run hard and well following the above rules. Pretty much every other person's Bird Dog I've seen run is spent in two hours or less. Mine go hard 5+hrs. sounds about right to me all this bollox comparing dogs to marathon runners theyre dogs ffs not humans i can see you have never seen a dog to a proper hard nights work. i can see you lack intelligence and youve no idea what your talking about never as the name trigger seemed so appropriate I AM RIGHT THEN. you can keep your so called intelligence. i will stick to common sense which you seem to be lacking. listen,i aint getting into a petty argument with some know nothing keyboard hunter who doesnt know when to feed his own dogs as for intelligence and common sense,it seems to me that you couldnt pour piss out of a boot....with the instructions written on the heel, lol Quote Link to post
Trigger 26 Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 My understanding (from Field Trial and Competitive Sled Dog people) is that a dog runs best on an empty stomach and that you want about 24hrs between it's last meal and the heavy work. To avoid Gastric Torsion aka 'bloat' (from Field Trialers and Vets), feed no later than two hours before work and no sooner than one hour after work. Never run a lurcher so I don't know if it's an apples to apples comparison. However my Bird Dogs have always run hard and well following the above rules. Pretty much every other person's Bird Dog I've seen run is spent in two hours or less. Mine go hard 5+hrs. sounds about right to me all this bollox comparing dogs to marathon runners theyre dogs ffs not humans i can see you have never seen a dog to a proper hard nights work. i can see you lack intelligence and youve no idea what your talking about never as the name trigger seemed so appropriate I AM RIGHT THEN. you can keep your so called intelligence. i will stick to common sense which you seem to be lacking. listen,i aint getting into a petty argument with some know nothing keyboard hunter who doesnt know when to feed his own dogs as for intelligence and common sense,it seems to me that you couldnt pour piss out of a boot....with the instructions written on the heel, do you piss in boots do you, thats intelligence for ya. i piss in a toilet thats common sense for ya. 1 Quote Link to post
rabbit mad 10 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 i run my dog on an empty stomach and give her a live out of one rabbit ever 4 or 5 rabbits as a reword. Quote Link to post
running addiction 207 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Recently bin feeding my dogs bout half 7 in morning and ive noticed that when out lampin they aint got as much fire in em as if i was to feed 10 oclock the nite before they just seem to run harder. Half portion on return rest first thing next morning plus a little extra beef with fat trimmings. Just do what works best for you could argue about this all week ha. Everybody has ther own opinions Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 My understanding (from Field Trial and Competitive Sled Dog people) is that a dog runs best on an empty stomach and that you want about 24hrs between it's last meal and the heavy work. To avoid Gastric Torsion aka 'bloat' (from Field Trialers and Vets), feed no later than two hours before work and no sooner than one hour after work. Never run a lurcher so I don't know if it's an apples to apples comparison. However my Bird Dogs have always run hard and well following the above rules. Pretty much every other person's Bird Dog I've seen run is spent in two hours or less. Mine go hard 5+hrs. sounds about right to me all this bollox comparing dogs to marathon runners theyre dogs ffs not humans i can see you have never seen a dog to a proper hard nights work. i can see you lack intelligence and youve no idea what your talking about never as the name trigger seemed so appropriate I AM RIGHT THEN. you can keep your so called intelligence. i will stick to common sense which you seem to be lacking. listen,i aint getting into a petty argument with some know nothing keyboard hunter who doesnt know when to feed his own dogs as for intelligence and common sense,it seems to me that you couldnt pour piss out of a boot....with the instructions written on the heel, I ain't to jumping to peoples defence but craigyboy you couldn't be more wrong about trigger being a keyboard warrior.The lad is probably out hunting more than a lot of peeps his dog gets worked hard,very hard and to a very high standard aswell.Just because you don't agree with somebody dosen't make them a keyboard hunter not taking sides just stating facts. Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Recently bin feeding my dogs bout half 7 in morning and ive noticed that when out lampin they aint got as much fire in em as if i was to feed 10 oclock the nite before they just seem to run harder. Half portion on return rest first thing next morning plus a little extra beef with fat trimmings. Just do what works best for you could argue about this all week ha. Everybody has ther own opinions your probably right mate the dog would be sharper if he was with out food for 24 hours (ok for an easy night )but on an hard night the cracks would start to show early,myself i would sooner a dog start steady and still be there at the end of the night,a starved dog would run flat out at the beginning, where a dog with a bit of food in his gut is more likely to start off a bit steadier,theres one thing horses dogs and humans have got in common to get the best out of our selfs we all need to warm up is that why i allways start slow and am the strongest at the end of the night when we go lamping because my guts is full of redbull Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 craigyboy... you should have a chat with trigger,and really get to know him,He,s a top lad. I would go as far as to say this...Take your dog down and go out with trigger and his old dog.You do what you think is best and see who has still got a dog left at the end of the night... if you do what you say is correct and not feed your dog before the nights expedition i will personally bet my own money that your dog will drop on its bollox before triggers has even got warmed up. if you think it could last the whole night running as hard as his dog without fuel... you will be eating humble pie. Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Recently bin feeding my dogs bout half 7 in morning and ive noticed that when out lampin they aint got as much fire in em as if i was to feed 10 oclock the nite before they just seem to run harder. Half portion on return rest first thing next morning plus a little extra beef with fat trimmings. Just do what works best for you could argue about this all week ha. Everybody has ther own opinions your probably right mate the dog would be sharper if he was with out food for 24 hours (ok for an easy night )but on an hard night the cracks would start to show early,myself i would sooner a dog start steady and still be there at the end of the night,a starved dog would run flat out at the beginning, where a dog with a bit of food in his gut is more likely to start off a bit steadier,theres one thing horses dogs and humans have got in common to get the best out of our selfs we all need to warm up is that why i allways start slow and am the strongest at the end of the night when we go lamping because my guts is full of redbull no its because your lazy b*****d and you make me do all the work, ps ask any one ha ha ha ....my names not colin Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Recently bin feeding my dogs bout half 7 in morning and ive noticed that when out lampin they aint got as much fire in em as if i was to feed 10 oclock the nite before they just seem to run harder. Half portion on return rest first thing next morning plus a little extra beef with fat trimmings. Just do what works best for you could argue about this all week ha. Everybody has ther own opinions your probably right mate the dog would be sharper if he was with out food for 24 hours (ok for an easy night )but on an hard night the cracks would start to show early,myself i would sooner a dog start steady and still be there at the end of the night,a starved dog would run flat out at the beginning, where a dog with a bit of food in his gut is more likely to start off a bit steadier,theres one thing horses dogs and humans have got in common to get the best out of our selfs we all need to warm up is that why i allways start slow and am the strongest at the end of the night when we go lamping because my guts is full of redbull no its because your lazy b*****d and you make me do all the work, ps ask any one ha ha ha ....my names not colin I heard that FLINT goes through more boots than you in a season DEERMAN :laugh: but you have better eyes Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Recently bin feeding my dogs bout half 7 in morning and ive noticed that when out lampin they aint got as much fire in em as if i was to feed 10 oclock the nite before they just seem to run harder. Half portion on return rest first thing next morning plus a little extra beef with fat trimmings. Just do what works best for you could argue about this all week ha. Everybody has ther own opinions your probably right mate the dog would be sharper if he was with out food for 24 hours (ok for an easy night )but on an hard night the cracks would start to show early,myself i would sooner a dog start steady and still be there at the end of the night,a starved dog would run flat out at the beginning, where a dog with a bit of food in his gut is more likely to start off a bit steadier,theres one thing horses dogs and humans have got in common to get the best out of our selfs we all need to warm up is that why i allways start slow and am the strongest at the end of the night when we go lamping because my guts is full of redbull no its because your lazy b*****d and you make me do all the work, ps ask any one ha ha ha ....my names not colin I heard that FLINT goes through more boots than you in a season DEERMAN :laugh: but you have better eyes i wear a pair out everytime i go out with him as i do all the carrying ....and your right about eyes unless hes had redbull Quote Link to post
martnmagik 68 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 i was told by the farm vet to feed my dog in the morning so if i go lampin the dog has an empty stomach as greyhound whippets and lurcher can twist there stomach as it is so much higher than the chest. the vet tells you the worst possible out come just to cover there selves. just because a vets told you something it doesnt always mean they are right. i agree 100% i once took my old boy in to the vet as one of his toes were really swollen and sore to touch and was told it was brokken and infected and would need amputating... knowing this was absolute crap i tried a different vet who found it to be the tip of a thorn that had embeded itself deep in. Quote Link to post
no1 jibber 31 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 why feed your dog when it gets back from a hard nights work would you run a marathon on an empty stomach doe's a wolf go hunting with half a belly full no. you carnt compare dogs to humans, dogs run much better on an empty stomach as long as yhere getting good grub no point in just feeding biscuit they need abit extra Quote Link to post
no1 jibber 31 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) double post Edited November 23, 2010 by no1 jibber Quote Link to post
TOMO 28,653 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 SOME lads i have known feed a full meal at tea time 5pm ish, with no ill efects, the thing to remember is if your lamping after midnight , the food that went in will be out of the stomach anyway, and in the small intestine,, and be well digested of course this depends on what they have eat. big chunks of bone would take longer to digest, but you wouldnt feed that. but regular minced beef/lamb/chicken , and meal would be broke down. Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 why feed your dog when it gets back from a hard nights work would you run a marathon on an empty stomach doe's a wolf go hunting with half a belly full no. you carnt compare dogs to humans, dogs run much better on an empty stomach as long as yhere getting good grub no point in just feeding biscuit they need abit extra Wolves hunt to eat,then rest until hungry again. Hard worked lamp dogs run on and on way past what is needed to acquire a meal-they need something in the tank to draw on. Flints sprinter/marathon analogy sums it up. Quote Link to post
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