tandors 888 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 It wouldn't be an issue if it was labelled so why isn't it? I'm sure I heard somewhere that KFC McDonalds etc. aswell as supermarket meat is halal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldfinch2007 2,337 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 boys lets be honest it bothers yous cos they re pakis .if they were white people no one would mind 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkie 143 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 thats true Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tallyho 181 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 i still wouldn like it if they were white yellow or green, every thing should be killed quick, no need for anything to suffer longer than it has too . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldfinch2007 2,337 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 what about a fox in a snare?all killing is cruel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 boys lets be honest it bothers yous cos they re pakis .if they were white people no one would mind What annoys most people is that its OK for Muslims to kill Animals like this in massive numbers for money, yet it isn't OK for us to dispatch our quarry in a similar way. That's the problem mate. It's a double standards, one rule for them and another for us. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldfinch2007 2,337 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 boys lets be honest it bothers yous cos they re pakis .if they were white people no one would mind What annoys most people is that its OK for Muslims to kill Animals like this in massive numbers for money, yet it isn't OK for us to dispatch our quarry in a similar way. That's the problem mate. It's a double standards, one rule for them and another for us. i understand that attack and its wrong.but to say its cruel,everytime we kill a animal its cruel.they sound like hypocrites. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Now I'm no pro animal activist, but the film of this slaughter house is just horrific: could any right thinking hunter condone this sort of treatment? http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2009/12/08/the-cruelty-behind-muslim-ritual-slaughter.aspx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MUDD 374 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) I havnt read threw this thread so forgive me if this has already been stated. I worked in 3 different slaughterhouses down the years. I can do most jobs on any killfloor. Though I was mainly shooting, shackling and bleeding. The animals i worked with ranged from turkeys, chickens, cows, lambs, horses and deer. After watching that clip Halal obviously is a more inhumane way, for the simple reason the animal in questions brain is still active while it's lifeblood is pouring out until it looses consciousness. With a bolt gun or barrell ( used correctly ) the animals brain is dead from the word go. Yes you get the nerve responsces as you would expect but not anything compared to that. Edited June 4, 2012 by MUDD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 That's why the humane way is to shove the nylon cord through the bolt hole. Kills the nerves And therefore killing the beast stone dead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 i still wouldn like it if they were white yellow or green, every thing should be killed quick, no need for anything to suffer longer than it has too . Is cutting something jugular vein etc, any slower than shooting it in the head with a bolt gun, in reality? Or is it just that it's messier? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Well u still need to cut thier throat jai. The bolt drops them strate away and like I just said the cord deals with nerves. I've done hundreds And from my expierence the only suffering I seen was the initial herding into the pen And I dunno but they know what's happening. Stringing them upside down when fully conscious with thier eyes bulging out thier heads and slowly draining the life from them. Well it's quite frankly not British fair play lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MUDD 374 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) The blood didn't seem to rush out very fast either. If you run the knife along a beasts neck and then penetrate the jugular at the closest point ( just before the top of the breast bone ) its alot more effective. Any knobend could cut an animals throat like that. In turn it will obviously suffer more. If your not trained you wouldnt know the difference. That's why there's strict regulations now in every abattoir up and down the country. My mate over 20 years in the job got sacked a few months back because a Q.C. Said he didn't stun a bullock to reasonable standards and because he hung and bled it without stunning again he got dismissed !!! Place is full off foreigners now anyway so any excuse if u ask me. It just goes to show. Edited June 4, 2012 by MUDD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 i still wouldn like it if they were white yellow or green, every thing should be killed quick, no need for anything to suffer longer than it has too . Is cutting something jugular vein etc, any slower than shooting it in the head with a bolt gun, in reality? Or is it just that it's messier? The answer is which way would you rather go shot in the head or to have your throat cut. Mine would be the former..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 i still wouldn like it if they were white yellow or green, every thing should be killed quick, no need for anything to suffer longer than it has too . Is cutting something jugular vein etc, any slower than shooting it in the head with a bolt gun, in reality? Or is it just that it's messier? The answer is which way would you rather go shot in the head or to have your throat cut. Mine would be the former..... People aren't bred for slaughter though, so that's a bit irrelevant IMO mate.. Neither way is pleasant but the result is exactly the same.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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