old english sheep dog

[watchman 256]

well as i sat in my drunken state last night my small mind began to wonder,of the crosses that are available today that make up the varied mix of lurchers we see,i have never heard of this type,now i don't know if its been done before and cannot find any info on it,so has it been done?if not why not? as reading up on them they might have a few things to offer.

apart from being very loyal,protective,intelligent and obvious herding instinct,good feet as well with a good course coat and waterproof under coat,they were developed for hard work,being tolerant of cold weather.

also reading up on the breed seems they can be very strong willed so would need a firm hand,but also found out that the beardie collie was used in the original stock to develop the breed,so have we just missed out the middle man and gone straight for the beardie so to speak.

i know that they are a popular show breed,and seems they can carry a few faults,ie deafness, diabetes and heat stroke with a full coat in a running dog would not be a good thing,so are these the obvious reasons why we never hear of them,and as we all know most will say you can keep your show shite and only breed from proven workers,is there anyone that still works the breed,that may be useful enough to use in the make up of lurchers.

reading back it seems i may well have answered my own questions,if the breed is never used,whats your thought then lads,come on don't be shy,im always willing to learn

just like to add that although i been running dogs,yes mainly bull x lol over the last 17 years,i do not know that much about the un-limited amount of dogs we regularly see and hear about,so if this question is a load of shite,say so,but at least give a constructive reason why, thanks rob

Edited May 1, 2010 by watchman

[Paul in North Lincs 15]

I think you pretty much answered the question yourself bud..... I think the reason we dont see this variety is because its more adapt to prancing around the show ring.....not only that...its got a hell of alot of hair!!!!! lol

[waidmann 105]

i think the coat would put me off tbh.

they do have a good size for the bigger lurchers though and i'm sure if there are good working strains still about they would make a good dog,i'm not familular with the breed so cannot comment on character etc(my sister had one when i was a kid and he was soft as shite with us!).

 

i would be interested to hear what others with more experiance have to say.

 

waidmann

[watchman 256]

Old English Sheepdogs are cheerful extroverts and make superb family companions. They have lovely natures but can be excitable and rough when playing, therefore care must be taken when young children are involved. They will join in every possible activity with enthusiasm. They are fearless and make excellent guard dogs, especially with their resonant bark which is sufficient to frighten off any intruder. They will however, get on well with other animals and dogs. Being as social as they are, visitors will be warmly welcomed,

found this,someone obviously likes them

[welshwizard 33]

Old English Sheepdogs are cheerful extroverts and make superb family companions. They have lovely natures but can be excitable and rough when playing, therefore care must be taken when young children are involved. They will join in every possible activity with enthusiasm. They are fearless and make excellent guard dogs, especially with their resonant bark which is sufficient to frighten off any intruder. They will however, get on well with other animals and dogs. Being as social as they are, visitors will be warmly welcomed,

found this,someone obviously likes them

Hi there, I had a good friend who worked a first cross OES Greyhound in the early seventies and he was a very good fox dog. Also I think Plummer wrote about them in one of his books. I do believe they are still worked in Scotland. Good luck.

[watchman 256]

Old English Sheepdogs are cheerful extroverts and make superb family companions. They have lovely natures but can be excitable and rough when playing, therefore care must be taken when young children are involved. They will join in every possible activity with enthusiasm. They are fearless and make excellent guard dogs, especially with their resonant bark which is sufficient to frighten off any intruder. They will however, get on well with other animals and dogs. Being as social as they are, visitors will be warmly welcomed,

found this,someone obviously likes them

Hi there, I had a good friend who worked a first cross OES Greyhound in the early seventies and he was a very good fox dog. Also I think Plummer wrote about them in one of his books. I do believe they are still worked in Scotland. Good luck.

nice one,cheers,whats the chances of getting a pic

Edited May 1, 2010 by watchman

[forest of dean redneck 12,022]

wasnt there a pic of one in walshs lurcher book

[Malt 379]

It could be one of those types of crosses that appear sound in theory, but a load of shite in reality! So many breeds could seem to add so much to the lurcher mix, but if it was the case in reality why don't they happen? Maybe because people have become too set in their ways, scared to think outside of the box when it comes to lurchers, or maybe they haven't got the time and energy to put a lot into a cross that may turn out to be a let down, so stick to tried & tested crosses.

[watchman 256]

It could be one of those types of crosses that appear sound in theory, but a load of shite in reality! So many breeds could seem to add so much to the lurcher mix, but if it was the case in reality why don't they happen? Maybe because people have become too set in their ways, scared to think outside of the box when it comes to lurchers, or maybe they haven't got the time and energy to put a lot into a cross that may turn out to be a let down, so stick to tried & tested crosses.

they may well be the case,but unless we ask we don't know,cheers though mate

[mattyg 1,862]

the simple answer is.....stop drinking....lol.....but yes mate, think you answered your own question with alot of sense! im off for a pint

cheers, matt

[watchman 256]

the simple answer is.....stop drinking....lol.....but yes mate, think you answered your own question with alot of sense! im off for a pint

cheers, matt

oh well ,that was the end of that,f**k gonna have another good tonight

[stroller 341]

no they are more trainable than a saluki but only just and they are quite an ungainly beast ive known two and i could never see any potential in either other than selling paint

[heart of wales 19]

Like the beardie collie unless it was working to sheep or cattle I would not entertain it,I personally have never seen one working,they probably have done in the past???? Is anyone still working them now.

Our beardie look and are nothing like show beardies and they probably would make a good cross,lots of good attributes fearless highly trainable very agile surprisingly quick.

[watchman 256]

no they are more trainable than a saluki but only just and they are quite an ungainly beast ive known two and i could never see any potential in either other than selling paint

well that answers that then lol,cheers

[brickie 76]

i dont know about a lurcher x but we had an old english when we were kids and he came everywhere with me until he had to be put down at 12 he was a very good friend and very loyal,he saved me twice from other dogs once from a loose gsd at the bottom of are street which had me and my sister pinned against a wall, i was 8 she was 6 and were on the way back from the shop at the end of are street anyway he must of heard the gsd barking or us screaming and he came down the street laid straight into the gsd which seemed huge to a 8 year old and he just nailed it ,all i can remember is looking back to see the gsd on floor with blood everywhere and my dog standing over him until i called him funnily enough that gsd never bothered any of the kids in street again. The second time i was playing in the front porch with one of those all glass front doors in the 70s and a black lab smashed threw the glass my mum was screaming there was glass everywhere and this lab in the house our dog came from the back yard and saw him off , i still miss him he was my best friend and excellent with us kids , he could run he used to chase after us when we were on are motorbikes and seemed to have plenty stamina , sorry if i've gone on but just trying to give insight to the dog that had a part in making me person i am today cheers