Mick C. 229 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Just bought in a new pup. He is saluki/whippet/greyhound sire collie/greyhound/bull/greyhound. His main purpose will be cathing rabbits on the lamp. Iwould like to take him out with the old bitch - she is strictly a ferret/bush/moochy type of dog. Do you think this could cause problems when i introduce him to the lamp later on. Any first hand experiences good or bad would be most helpful Quote Link to post
natter79 17 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 you'll need to make sure the basic's are covered really well first such as the recall because after a couple of trips out daytime and mooching the dog will start using his nose and hunting up when on the lamp and shouting your gut's out for a dog tearing round in the darks not great atb natter Quote Link to post
allenyeates 3 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 you'll need to make sure the basic's are covered really well first such as the recall because after a couple of trips out daytime and mooching the dog will start using his nose and hunting up when on the lamp and shouting your gut's out for a dog tearing round in the darks not great atb natter Good post, but personally I,ve always used my dogs for lamp and day time (ferreting,bushing etc.) and never had a problem. Free rein in the day time, instant return when lamp goes out, thas what I expect and all the dogs I,ve ever trained have responded easily. Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 you'll need to make sure the basic's are covered really well first such as the recall because after a couple of trips out daytime and mooching the dog will start using his nose and hunting up when on the lamp and shouting your gut's out for a dog tearing round in the darks not great atb natter Good post, but personally I,ve always used my dogs for lamp and day time (ferreting,bushing etc.) and never had a problem. Free rein in the day time, instant return when lamp goes out, thas what I expect and all the dogs I,ve ever trained have responded easily. ive got two dogs and they both do day and night and dont have a problem and i work both lose Quote Link to post
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 (edited) FTB Edited March 13, 2010 by FightTheBan Quote Link to post
blackpack 70 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 you'll need to make sure the basic's are covered really well first such as the recall because after a couple of trips out daytime and mooching the dog will start using his nose and hunting up when on the lamp and shouting your gut's out for a dog tearing round in the darks not great atb natter Good post, but personally I,ve always used my dogs for lamp and day time (ferreting,bushing etc.) and never had a problem. Free rein in the day time, instant return when lamp goes out, thas what I expect and all the dogs I,ve ever trained have responded easily. spot on bud, my lurchers are used for everything, not only a one job tool, as said if the basics are there should be no problem. In the day my lurchers hunt, and at night soon as lamp off come instantly back, good luck to you, but try to open the dogs mind to all forms of hunting Quote Link to post
southcott 9 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Good posts i am also new at training pups for hunting, ive learnt more on here than any where, :kiss: Denise Quote Link to post
Mick C. 229 Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 you'll need to make sure the basic's are covered really well first such as the recall because after a couple of trips out daytime and mooching the dog will start using his nose and hunting up when on the lamp and shouting your gut's out for a dog tearing round in the darks not great atb natter Good post, but personally I,ve always used my dogs for lamp and day time (ferreting,bushing etc.) and never had a problem. Free rein in the day time, instant return when lamp goes out, thas what I expect and all the dogs I,ve ever trained have responded easily. spot on bud, my lurchers are used for everything, not only a one job tool, as said if the basics are there should be no problem. In the day my lurchers hunt, and at night soon as lamp off come instantly back, good luck to you, but try to open the dogs mind to all forms of hunting Which first - any preference.I would have thought lamp then daytime Quote Link to post
bird 9,594 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 you'll need to make sure the basic's are covered really well first such as the recall because after a couple of trips out daytime and mooching the dog will start using his nose and hunting up when on the lamp and shouting your gut's out for a dog tearing round in the darks not great atb natter Good post, but personally I,ve always used my dogs for lamp and day time (ferreting,bushing etc.) and never had a problem. Free rein in the day time, instant return when lamp goes out, thas what I expect and all the dogs I,ve ever trained have responded easily. spot on bud, my lurchers are used for everything, not only a one job tool, as said if the basics are there should be no problem. In the day my lurchers hunt, and at night soon as lamp off come instantly back, good luck to you, but try to open the dogs mind to all forms of hunting Which first - any preference.I would have thought lamp then daytime YEP, get lamping in its head 1st, and try daytime later. But as you got your day dog why bother, with the other dog.?? Ive only got one dog so mine as to do both. But in your case you have 2 dogs, so carnt see any probs.? Quote Link to post
cooper101 86 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 mine started off ferreting with me after he learned his manners!! i find this an easier way of making sure he recalls and is obeying my commands in the field!! then i started him on the lamp and he works perfectly well coming back when the lamps off and not on the slip he runs free!! i used to walk him off the slip with rabbits bolting infront of him and he knows only to go on command i put this down to all the daytime work i did with him before i let him loose in the field at night!! Quote Link to post
my hounds 306 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Good posts i am also new at training pups for hunting, ive learnt more on here than any where, :kiss: Denise AGREE DENISE,HAD SOME GOOD TIPS FROM THL THAT HAS HELP MY SETUP/SITUATION,AS WELL AS FROM BOOKS,DVD,s,ETC. Quote Link to post
Mick C. 229 Posted March 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 you'll need to make sure the basic's are covered really well first such as the recall because after a couple of trips out daytime and mooching the dog will start using his nose and hunting up when on the lamp and shouting your gut's out for a dog tearing round in the darks not great atb natter Good post, but personally I,ve always used my dogs for lamp and day time (ferreting,bushing etc.) and never had a problem. Free rein in the day time, instant return when lamp goes out, thas what I expect and all the dogs I,ve ever trained have responded easily. spot on bud, my lurchers are used for everything, not only a one job tool, as said if the basics are there should be no problem. In the day my lurchers hunt, and at night soon as lamp off come instantly back, good luck to you, but try to open the dogs mind to all forms of hunting Which first - any preference.I would have thought lamp then daytime YEP, get lamping in its head 1st, and try daytime later. But as you got your day dog why bother, with the other dog.?? Ive only got one dog so mine as to do both. But in your case you have 2 dogs, so carnt see any probs.? Thanks for the reply. The day dog is eight years old.when she retires i am hoping my mates dog will be good enough to take over bushing/marking duties(some ask)They work together at the moment. Quote Link to post
jd35 2 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 a lurcher hasnt been tested if it doesnt do both, people go on about lamp dogs, fen dogs, ferreting dogs, all a load of shite if you ask me the 1 st few yrs of a dogs bringing on we should mix all 4 and more and then and only then it can be partioned of to make a dog of quality on your chosen quarry, hope this is taken on board and the pup serves you well for many a year Quote Link to post
Top Lamper 2k10 169 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 ive always started my lurchers off on the lamp first because ive seen a couple of pups thats bin out in the day time hunting but when they tried it on lamping and when the dogs missed the rabbits lamping they used to f**k off useing its nose which you dont want coz there maybe other rabbits about Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 A lurcher is a mooching dog and as such should be able to master most tasks thrown at it...otherwise we,d all have several dogs each doing an individual job...atb stabba Quote Link to post
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