bullx 12 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hello all fellow shooters, just would like to ask a few question if i could, 1,what is the differance between full metal jacket bullets 55gr and 55gr hollow points, i have both bullets and would like to know if lads on here have shot with these,i was told that the FMJ are not to be used on foxes as they dont do the same job as the hollow points,so maybe someone on here can answer my questions, Thank you in advance..........Bullx. ps.i use these bullets in my Brno .223 Quote Link to post
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) . Edited August 18, 2009 by JohnGalway Quote Link to post
rjimmer 4 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I think you use FMJ's if you want to shoot an enemy combatant within Geneva Convention Rules. Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 FMJ does not expand, in the civilian world it's for target work only. Hollow point is for foxes and stuff. FMJ can kill a fox no problem but your shot placement has to be absolutely precise. Don't go there, that road leads to wounding. Quote Link to post
scarecrow243 24 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 fmj are ilegal to use on any animal you would lose your certificate Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 fmj are ilegal to use on any animal you would lose your certificate No, this is not correct. The only animal where this does apply is deer - the Deer Act specifically states that expanding ammunition must be used. Other animals are afforded no such protection, and thus the use of FMJ is legal. In some circumstances it is a useful tool (though personally I wouldn't, I like being humane), for example shooting an animal where you intend to keep the pelt. Quote Link to post
scarecrow243 24 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 fmj are ilegal to use on any animal you would lose your certificate No, this is not correct. The only animal where this does apply is deer - the Deer Act specifically states that expanding ammunition must be used. Other animals are afforded no such protection, and thus the use of FMJ is legal. In some circumstances it is a useful tool (though personally I wouldn't, I like being humane), for example shooting an animal where you intend to keep the pelt. sorry but it was changed a few years ago you cant buy exspanding ammo if you dont have it on your certificate and it also states fmj is for target shooting only Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) fmj are ilegal to use on any animal you would lose your certificate No, this is not correct. The only animal where this does apply is deer - the Deer Act specifically states that expanding ammunition must be used. Other animals are afforded no such protection, and thus the use of FMJ is legal. In some circumstances it is a useful tool (though personally I wouldn't, I like being humane), for example shooting an animal where you intend to keep the pelt. sorry but it was changed a few years ago you cant buy exspanding ammo if you dont have it on your certificate and it also states fmj is for target shooting only no mate there is no law to say you cant use fmj on vermin or fox. its only deer that you HAVE TO USE EXPANDING ON. anyway no need to use fmj on fox not only dont it do as good job. its also more dangerous as it tends to keep going after its hit one your right you cant buy expanding if you dont have it on ticke.t but if your granted rifles for vermin control you will have it on there. the reason you got to have it on there is more then likely down to the fact if you have range shooting on your ticket and not vermin then expanding wouldnt be used for range work Edited August 19, 2009 by jamie g Quote Link to post
bobndog 0 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 fmj are ilegal to use on any animal you would lose your certificate No, this is not correct. The only animal where this does apply is deer - the Deer Act specifically states that expanding ammunition must be used. Other animals are afforded no such protection, and thus the use of FMJ is legal. In some circumstances it is a useful tool (though personally I wouldn't, I like being humane), for example shooting an animal where you intend to keep the pelt. sorry but it was changed a few years ago you cant buy exspanding ammo if you dont have it on your certificate and it also states fmj is for target shooting only no mate there is no law to say you cant use fmj on vermin or fox. its only deer that you HAVE TO USE EXPANDING ON. anyway no need to use fmj on fox not only dont it do as good job. its also more dangerous as it tends to keep going after its hit one Yep, that is exactly correct. What has not been mentioned yet is the fact that FMJ ricochets like 22r/f, and off of any surface including water, which is a good reason not to use it at all. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 fmj are ilegal to use on any animal you would lose your certificate No, this is not correct. The only animal where this does apply is deer - the Deer Act specifically states that expanding ammunition must be used. Other animals are afforded no such protection, and thus the use of FMJ is legal. In some circumstances it is a useful tool (though personally I wouldn't, I like being humane), for example shooting an animal where you intend to keep the pelt. sorry but it was changed a few years ago you cant buy exspanding ammo if you dont have it on your certificate and it also states fmj is for target shooting only As has been said..FMJ is perfectly legal on ANY quarry except deer, but it really isn't the best way forward, if you have Vermin/fox etc on your FAC simply go back and ask for expanding ammo as well!! Quote Link to post
bullx 12 Posted August 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Thanks lads you all have been very helpful,i wont bother with the FMJ,s unless i am target shooting,i always like a clean kill and dont want to start wounding game and leaving it to die, Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 alot of people use amax ammo mate which is a target round yet it looks just like vmax and many people have used it on fox and they say it expands ! so theres one to look at Quote Link to post
riohog 5,905 Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 ive used 155gn A max through my .308 very accurate used them on live stuff clean kills there good !! Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 ive used 155gn A max through my .308 very accurate used them on live stuff clean kills there good !! Yep, but that's actually an expanding round. The A-max is a tricky one - it's designated for targets, but is actually basically the same as v-max. They worked out that the high BCs of the bullets were good for target shooters too Quote Link to post
provarmint 25 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I think you use FMJ's if you want to shoot an enemy combatant within Geneva Convention Rules. Hague Convention. Quote Link to post
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