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Alsone

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  1. The field provided a good backdrop as there was a lot of slope behind the shot and HMR fragments so I'd call safe shot. That said as a general policy if there was any kind of building in the background (I can't tell from the video) I personally wouldn't take a shot unless there was a steep or sheer bank as a shallow slope, especially wet grass, can lead to ricochets from what my expeience walking around with others has led to me to believe. That said, highly unlikely with fragmenting ammo, but worth bearing in mind. My general policy with any kind of shooting is any doubt, don't shoot.
  2. I'm going to hazard a guess that with a neck shot becuase you entirely sever the spinal cord you cutt all communication to the muscles. With a head shot I'm guessing you destroy the brain but there's still enough electrical energy being dishacrged to travel down the spine to the limbs.
  3. +1. Drooling all over the stock and stainless finish. I love laminates.
  4. Energy wmr vs hmr, pretty similar at around 70 yards: When it comes to trajectory, the .22 magnum is way behind the HMR:
  5. Theoretically. They won't necessarily award them but that don't count on that. As the police will use a Barrister, if they do award them, then you're looking at a few thousand.
  6. I would be very surprised if that was the case. It's been specifically designed as a Coyote round and even the ammo is labelled as such - "Varmint and Coyote". With your experience and knowledge you don't need me to tell you a Coyote is a much tougher predator than a fox. Plus at 250 yds it has more more velocity than a .22 Hornet and around the same energy. On that basis, I can see no reason why its not going to be very a good low noise, low recoil and cheap long range foxing round. In addition to the 20gr round there's also a 25gr version which substitutes a bit of we
  7. Well I've not heard of any cartridge issues although there are only a very limited number of people who are posting anywhere who have these guns as they are in very short supply. In fact the cartridges are 50% thicker brass than in the HMR. Only issue I've heard of is with the cartirdge allegedly faiing to eject sometimes out of the Savage B-Mag but that could the gun as much as the cartridge as one of the press day videos also made mention of this with the B-Mag ejector. As for the.17 Hornet, the issues are cost (not everyone wants to reload or invest in reloading equipment which is very
  8. I lobe the way she's gagging the child!
  9. Just a word of warning on this, the BASC generally won't help with any issue that started BEFORE the membership did. Don't know about SACS but I imagine thats the same. That said, SACS is well worth joining if you get this sorted. Just wondering, have the police ever had a call out to a domestic between you and your ex even if no-one was charged?
  10. Whatever your reason for wanting it, you still need to show good reason in the firearms departments eyes and as others have said, that means showing a need that cannot be satisfied with either of your existing calibres.
  11. So the ammo will be WInchester then. Must admit I can't really see the logic in that for Hornady, they sell rounds either way and considering its harder to get a grant for a centrefire than a rimfire, and given the ammo costs, I expect they would sell far more rimfire in .17 WSM than they'd ever sell .17 Hornet. Maybe its just not established enough yet. I know in the US from searches that there are long waiting lists and shortages of Savage B-Mag rifles at many dealers despite some reported alleged issues with cycling and also a few comments about the rifle allegedly being plasticky.
  12. Why aren't you allowed rimfire ammunition?
  13. As a few of you know, I've been tracking this eargerly and I've come across a couple of real life situational HD videos now. In this 1st one, the targets are rabbits and ground squirrel. The damage is actually much less than I've seen from a HMR, I'm guessing that maybe the higher velocity is carrying the bullet through the small target before the fragments have as much time to tracks sideways and cause lateral damage. This is actually good news for rabbit shooters! Bit of general discussion before get to the shooting. Shooting has close ups of the damage: The
  14. Check whether or not your firearms department consider HMR good reason for foxes - its not on the official list (as its too new) and many departments have now withdrawn their approval due to its lack of power. If yours is one of those and you have permission to shoot fox, you could justify the variation application for long range fox and vermin. .22LR is only good for around yds and if HMR isn't fox approved at your dept., then they'd have no choice but to consider it for the fox part of the application.
  15. Anything thats supersonic will be loud as its the crack of the bullet through the air creating a small sonic boom rather than the muzzle blast that you tend to hear. That doesn't mean you can't get calibres with quieter or louder muzzles blasts because the noise at the muzzle is down to amongst other things the type and amount of powder and efficiency of the mod. But if you really want quiet, then .22 Subs are your only real option. The HMR in the video doesn't sound particularly loud to me, not that you can tell from a video anyway. But for comparison, my friend has a .22 rimfire. If
  16. That's one very dead rabbit. Mot even a muscle twitch.
  17. Don't know I always use felt wads. Nothing worse than a farmer with a vets bill because his animal chewed on a plastic wadding.
  18. Well I happen to feel that shooting lead into the environment can't be a good thing generally. That said, I don't agree with a ban this side of a comparibly priced alternative that performs as well or almost as well becoming available and the only thing I know of that does is Hevi and its not comparatively priced! I also agree that the current lead ban should apply more to the site rather than the species. ie non toxic when shooitng over water, lead over land.
  19. I'd say find a brand you shoot well and stick with it. Clay shooting is all about consistency. You're not doing yourself any favours keep switching between brands as they all have very different balances so you're changing the playing field everytime you buy a gun and having to re-learn what you were doing before. To give an analogy, Its like buying a front wheel drive car and getting used to its handling around a race track and then swopping for a rear wheel drive car and expecting to go out and drive round a track the same as before with exactly the same lap times. It's not going to
  20. I've heard Hevi shot are about the best lead substitute you can buy but the cost is horrendous around £56 (Euro 65) for 25 cartridges in 70mm!!!! ....and that's from a discount retailer! A lead ban is pretty much the end of shooting in the UK in my view. I'd like to see lead phased out for non wildfowl but until Hevi can be brought down to £7 a box, I don't see them as a practical alternative. Good to hear some steel works against small game in your experience, but equally I've heard many horror stories of woundings from steel due to a lack of energy transference. As for fox and hare
  21. Yep I don't want to keep feeding the troll and wasting time on posts you clearly are going to ignore anyway. As Matt has said, you make your own choices. At the end of the day, if you kill a non feral cat and someone reports you, it will be you left to justify your actions and it will be you facing prison not me.
  22. I really shouldn't indulge you but... Here's an actual proseuction for killing a domestic cat on a farm with a single humane shot: http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/teen-could-be-jailed-for-shooting-cat-1.77764?referrerPath=home/2.1962 The guy claimed it was an accident through mistaken identity. Doesn't say the final outcome but he was found guilty of Criminal Damage and the case adjorned whilst the Courts considered whether or not to sentance him to prison. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  23. The question of Shooting Cats was asked in shooting.uk and answered by David Frost who I believe is / was a legal adviser at the BASC: http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/shootingadvice/452145/Am_I_allowed_to_shoot_feral_cats.html Although the answer is somewhat brief, you'll see that he confirms that cats are legally the owners "property" as was pointed out above and that as such shooting a domestic non feral cat is an offence of Criminal Damage and would also leave you open to a law suit. The onus is on you to absolutely prove that the cat was feral. I'd also suggest that other laws may
  24. Sometimes it's difficult to tell on message boards so we should probably both try harder, you at making it obvious and me at spotting it.
  25. I'd say stay away from mulitmode torches, although that may be difficult as they all seem to be multimode. I have one similar to the above (cree t6 1600 lumen), centre mounted switch. The 1st one had to go back with problems. It's replacement is causing me issues as well with switching on / mode issues. This cost me £35 on ebay as I deliberately avoided the cheap ones and went for a seller with thousands of feedback at 100%. Some good that did! There's a lot to be said for a straight on / off. Can't fault the torch for brightness, but the switch board is definately suss for qual
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