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    I've seen people in parks around here with dummy launchers before. Like I said above, not everyone who enjoys country sports lives in the country or near their shoot / private land they have permission to use. That said, no I don't advocate taking a starting pistol into a public park which was really my point. If you're going to be training anywhere thats public or near public footapths which are frequented by urban walkers then anything that looks like a handgun, even if brightly coloured, could be ill advised. (It's amazing how a single helpful comment that maybe it would be worth co
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    Presses "Like" button. That's pretty much exactly what I'm getting at. It's easy for people to forget sometimes that not everyone everyone lives in the Countryside. Many shooters live urban or sub urban and their shoots might be an hour's drive or more away whereas the local park is just around the corner, or where their shoot is in the country nearby, the paths near it are full of" urban" day trippers who don't approve of guns or shooting and can't tell a starting pistol or a toy from a howitzer. I don't know where the OP lives. You can never be too careful. You might be entirely lawf
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    If you walk a rabbit up and it bolts, are you really telling me you can hit it with a rimfire Deker? C'mon. Most people struggle with a shotgun to hit a bolting rabbit dodging and weaving at speeds up to 30-35 mph, never mind a rifle. With a shotgun, more get missed than shot. It's horses for courses. You can't use a rimfire against a bird unless it's grounded and for bolting rabbits a shotgun is definitely the tool to have. For sniping rabbits or grounded birds in flocks, when feeding, then yep rimfire or air rifle is a much better / stealthier tool and definitely a better choice if it's
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    I'm perfectly calm. I just prefer to err on the edge of caution. I have seen people training dogs in the local parks round here, but with launchers. I just think it's ill advised these days to carry starting pistols anywhere in public. Maybe if you have a piece of land in the middle of other private land, such as on a large farm, then yep no-one will bother you. But in a public park or on private land near a footpath, I'd expect a call. That's the nature of the beast these days. The public are paranoid about anything that remotely resembles a gun.
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    Can't provide any evidence as call outs with no illegality don't make the papers. However, I can 100% guarantee you if you walk into eg a public park around here with a gun, even a bright red one with a dog, someone will call the police within the 1st 5 mins. Most people around me won't even allow their kids to have toy guns anymore. At the end of the day I err on the side of caution. I'm sure many people do use red starting pistols for gun training without any problems. Personally, in public, I'd rather use a launcher or something else that goes bang but doesn't risk a police call
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    Most people use an O&U so don't worry about it. Not quite sure why people are trying to put you off them. A S by S is a good traditional game gun but apart from a few people on pheasant shoots you're unlikely to find people using them. I'd say more than 95% of rough shooters are using O&U. In fact a little known fact is that multiple world clay champion George Digweed does quite a bit of pigeon, crow etc shooting, with an O&U..... One of those rare videos: ..and shotguns were designed for rabbits and birds. There's no doubt that rimfire is cleaner but
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    Never heard of anyone getting shot gun training but would you fancy an armed response? I could almost guarantee you if you're in a public place with a handgun, even a bright red one, and it goes bang, then some idiot will report you "as firing shots from what appears to be a hangun".
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    Except in many/most training situations a dummy launcher is completely the wrong tool for the job Well I can't comment on that as I don't train gun dogs other than to say a dummy launcher doesn't get you shot. Plenty of people have been shot and killed with imitation firearms and the way the public are in this country if they see you out eg in the street or local park, or public countryside with a handgun they will report you, legal or not, and that means an armed response.
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    .38 blank firing pistols were made illegal, but as I said, consult the BASC as it may have been changed following a new model being produced - the issue on the originals was criminals were drilling out the barrels and using them as real .38's. My understanding is .22's were never banned. As I also said above, you're safe with a dummy launcher.
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    Speak to the BASC. I understood .22's were still legal and there's a press release on their website that appears to suggest that there may be a new version of the .38 that's now legal. However, the text below it is from the .38 calibre ban so it's not at all clear (to me at least) what is and isn't banned: http://basc.org.uk/firearms/changes-to-legislation/ Personally, I don't see the need for blank firing guns. Surely it's safer to carry a dummy launcher if you want to acclimatise your dog to a gunshot and it has the advantage of combining a retreival game along with the shot
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    A 12G over and under is the best alround solution for clays and game. 32g No:6 will take pretty much anything humanely other than fox and large high flying birds such as duck and geese. It's a great alround cartridge.
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    I can't see it happening, or at least anyone being prosecuted / sued successfully. That's like suing a car manufacturer for the fact that the car can travel faster than the speed limit, because you got prosecuted for speeding. Or a fizzy drinks manufacturer for carpet stains because a fizzy drinks bottle will spray fizzy drink everywhere if you shake it before opening it. Fact is you can abuse just about anything, what the law is going to look at is it's intended use and does it comply with regulations for that purpose. If you (not you personally), are stupid enough to abuse that,
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    Your never going to get five years for it unless you are in a nightclub with a pistol. Probably not, but I looked it up. It all depends on how the police deal with you. If it's dealt with summarily (in Magistrates Court) it's a fine up to the maximum (£5,000) and / or up to 6 months in prison. If it's dealt with via the Crown Court, then it's 5 years compulsory or 7 with aggravation: http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/section_1_firearms_act/ You're right though, it's highly unlikely a simple "mistake" or "misjudgement" like this would be dealt with in Crow
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    Very unwise thing to try. Get caught with 4 up the spout (less likely) or get observed firing more than 3 shots (more likely if police are watching because of a call or just passing), and you're in deep trouble. You're illegally in possession of a S1 Firearm. Isn't the penalty now 5 years minimum for that?
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    Nice work. Keep the .223 off the mild though. It goes through 1/4 plate without any problem. Here's why mild steel and CF don't mix (this is .223), at the end you can see this is way thicker than 4mm (if quarter plate then its 6mm obviously):
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    TBH your claims hold up for heavier ammo 40gr .204 vs 55gr .22-250 if you run it through gun data. However, from memory several above were listing 32gr as the ammo of choice for the .204, and if you use the lighter ammo, then the energy is way less for the .204 at distance. I would say therefore that the paper data suggests the splash issues some people have found are probably associated with the lighter ammo. Kind of hard without extended field testing or evidence from somewhere of bullets grains vs splash occurrence. Must admit though, the fact that it happens at all, doesn't inspire
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    Won't go wrong with Browning full stop. If the balance suits you, they're all cracking shotguns (725,525,325). They also hold their values very well.
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    No you're right to point out the deliberate error , it should read Wildcat. .408 CT looks interesting, but given that the British Army and AI have stuck with .338 Lapua Magnum, I'm guessing that overall there's something that prevents it being the ultimate sniper calibre. Either that, or maybe we'll be seeing a switch in the future.
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    If you're going to go wildfire, then do it right, .30-378 Weatherby for the light walk around and .577 Tyrannosaur for rabbits (twice the energy of the .505 ). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-378_Weatherby_Magnum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.577_Tyrannosaur I reckon you could get the Weatherby under the radar of the FEO, if he didn't google it, for deer shooting as on the face of it it's a 30 calibre bullet. Not that I'm suggesting your try. Ammo costs would be horrendous and it would almost certainly pass through with every shot. BTW, I said wildfire but it seems both the a
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    Nah gods choice is .338 Lapua Magnum. Then again God doesn't have an FEO!
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    $99 and available in a wide range of colours / styles including thumbhole. Available on the CZ as well. EDIT: Forgot Link - Sorry - http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/FindAStock?Make=2D&Model=231&Action=11
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    CF because it would be carrying more energy. Yes I agree entirely you can't blame the calibre. However, with anything that richochets you have no control over the direction it goes. You could be shooting in a "safe" direction but if it ricochets out to the side, it may be unsafe. BTW, I'm not in anyway saying .22LR isn't safe, just that it's not as safe as something that fragments, at least in my mind.
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    I agree that safety comes from the shooter. However the less prone a round is to ricochet, the less potentially dangerous it is to bystanders (precautions to ensure a safe backstop are never 100% efficient). So lets just settle for the fact that fragmenting rounds are less prone to ricochet. I think that's a fair comment, and of course .22LR isn't the most dangerous calibre, any shot from any CF is far more serious if it goes astray.
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    Deker : Yeah no doubting he was an idiot for taking a shot without knowing where everyone on the land was, no argument. However, if the calibre hadn't been prone to passing through and then ricocheting, the bullet wouldn't have been coming at me in any event. So 50% calibre, 50% idiot. Only real saving grace with LR that no doubt keeps those accident figures down, is it's limited range.
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