Some odd good 1st x's off mike, however, its a gamble, as the first x in my experience either comes very good or bad, its pot luck, but when you get a good 1st x, their hard to beet as a good all rounder and pot filler.. ....Mike is a good start, over a good greyhound bitch. I know of Mike full saluki, not far from me, and Brookie did a good job breeding him.