Its a b*****d to get, ive got a bit its just a waiting game now. Ive got a Fell dog 7mth old who im starting off at rats and see how he goes. But my big hope is my two lakeland bitches theyre only pups but theyre both bold as brass, the black n tan is the toughest pup ive ever had, she puts the irish bred staffords ive had to shame haha.