Cheers lads think it will be a trip to the dentist or a trip down to the shed to get a pair of mole grips lol, tried the whiskey trick and has worked well dont know if that's because I drunk to much or it's numb lol, only reason I don't like the dentist is because last time they gave me an injection 5 times coukd still feel everything they done and my eye played up for a few days afterwards