Thanks lads for the nice comments , the pups are out of a whippet bitch that my brother bred back in Tyneside and the dog is Basically Collie/Whippet/Greyhound, he's 10 now and still going strong , its the forth generation of these that i've bred now, good dogs for smaller stuff, bunnys and the odd hare and mustard on charlie, and have been really good on Racoon out here ! i brought the bigger lurcher in for coyotes , but she's still young so we'll see how she turns out .