just been chatting with a few lads ,I go hunting all year round and have heard over the years that people that go out killing vixens who have just had cubs ,are usually the same people that whinge and whine about vixens being killed in March and April leaving cubs behind.These people do not seem to have the same morals when they go out and kill easy cubs in august and september ,why do they not have enough scruples to stand by what they so call believe in and only go out in november ,december when they are fully grown .This goes for all walks of hunting pre ban with lurchers ,shooters,snarers,