forgot about the old school ways,makes sence when you think about it.where i live there's a lane for traffic which is well used which has a stream running by the side of it,some time ago a fella was walking home drunk down the lane fell into the stream and was dead within ten days from Weil's disease.most rats I've seen in daytime was at my local retail park where there's a McDonald's and KFC, sat in the car eating ourmc'd must have counted at least 15 in and out of hedge.got to say mind i was parked closer to KFC's