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  1. 52 minutes ago, morton said:

    Your recall is flawed,it was a Deerhoundy/collie lurcher.

    My mistake my mind has been jaded with an intense amount of alcoholic beverages and assorted medicated drugs since then I do apologise 

  2. 4 minutes ago, morton said:

    One of the finest litters of obedient grafters I had the honour to own,enter and weep over was a litter of 13,i left the bitch with 5 and kept 4 for myself,it was the easiest litter ive ever trained,educated and entered.I kept 4 hoping to weed out the less desirable and at 11 months of age I reluctantly let 2 go,Gafer on here owned one through his dad and its progress told its own tale,its brother faired as well and the 2 I kept,eventually lost were as good in the field.That was a piss easy litter to educate at the same time and when ive had the fortune to educate only two it was twice as hard.

    Yeah I do recall I gentleman on here gaffer had a few beddy type jukels if I have the right lad a lot of people take 2 or 3 from a litter 

  3. 5 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

    That gene was in there somewhere mate x2 .It’s a lottery starting with the right gear ,that’s why it’s important to do a bit of homework I’d say ,I just got lucky .

    The bigger the mix to start with the higher the hybrid vigour .That’s to say the wider the gene mix the less likely bad traits have been FIXED by inbreeding .Doubling up on faults is what causes them to surface I’m told .

    It's hard to know if that's not in there  there's always going to be the odd fault here and there is a crazy world and the dog world is crazier look at all these examples of pedigree dogs out there now a far fall from what the actual breed was a sorry site due to selective inbreeding where unfortunately faults were actually bred into those dogs crying shame 

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  4. 1 minute ago, poxon said:

    I remember with canarys a canarys breeding span was avarage about 5yrs so you could inbreed 5gen till you would need to add new blood but it’d be a close relative but with a dog an this 5yr graft policy and a dog living to 10-12yr old you’d only get to the second maybe 3rgen of the original dog for inbreeding before it snuffed it 

    Yeah that's true mate 5yrs load of Bollox though let's be honest if I had a 3 yr old dog that was showing a 5 or 6 yr old dog up I'd breed it simple as that

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  5. 1 minute ago, foxdropper said:

    It’s only a problem if your stock holds the problem gene to start with .You cannot breed in faults without introducing them .

    I dunno about that heres1 for my pal a good few years back bred a litter of a well bred dog did it's job 10 fold put it to a none related bitch all the pups turned out belters but unfortunately 1 had a cleft palate now how can this be 

  6. 3 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

    Tell me why mate .Start with good stock and continue .With lurchers of mixed breed the line should be limitless .

    Hmmmm I'm on the fence here with this 1 I think you can inbreed too much sometimes it is necessary though if you want the right stuff,Blackie does have a valid point though inbreed is a problem 

  7. 2 minutes ago, Black neck said:

    With inbreeding would u say uncle 2 niece is better than grandsire granddaughters mating and how long do u expect 2 keep this up before an outcross is needed 

    Hmmmm that's a tricky 1 grandparents to grandchildren then back to uncle and cousins can be done quite a few times and remember the out cross you wanna bring in must be of same type of breeding other wise your just pissing in the wind any body else wanna shed some light on this 

  8. 9 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

    If you read thread from start to finish the original poster states it’s a long way round to creating a line which is so far from the truth as to be a downright lie  .Fastest way to fix traits is to stick to  one common denominator ie the dog .

    Breed your  stud  to very closely bred bitches of the right sort and pick another stud from same breeding for future use ,repeat .Done it for years with terriers .

    Should do a book about it 

  9. 8 hours ago, poxon said:

    Used to practice inbeeding/line breeding with red canarys for showing it does work but with with avian the turn over is a lot faster as you know being a pigeon man it’s year to year with the dogs it’s a long process if done correctly an goals can’t change from the beginning👍🏽 I’d like to dabble in close bred stuff from what I got now but think it’s to much of a challenge if your trying to keep best worker to best worker an close breed I think you gotta choose one or the other as a lot of kennel blindness comes in to it when close breeding

    Yeah that's right mate hit the nail on the head if a dogs or a line of dogs are doing the job for you then only way to solidify what you've got is to line breed 1 of the best lurcher I ever had  was the result of an uncle to niece breeding if I could get the breed again id give my right arm and a packet of smarties

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  10. I was never s big fan of inbreeding but I will be honest it's not a bad thing is you want the same stamp of dog as has been said I keep racing pigeons and it's proven that inbreeding does keep the line tight and keep the winning ability there as does dogs I'm not saying inbreed till there stupidly in bred but keep the key dogs strong in the line bred x for me is always grandparents to grandchildren I always think that's the ideal breeding because you gone back to the originals 👍

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