My main concern with frotch is age he is a lion but age catches up with every one time , tide , and ready mixed concrete waits for no man , groves now knows frotch is beaterble in the early rounds and i fully expect him to come out all guns. Blazing both will be in peak condition frotch has been here before Ive changed my mind time and time again on this one only hope it lives up to the hype , mentaly froch is as strong as they come , But like some one ha allready said time will tell.