All is i see is a pack thats lost its home territory for reasons beyound their control I can not claim history with them as i have none , but any man women group of people who are as dedicated as these are get my unreserved admiration , maybe on days when they are not on the guest list and have to. Pack up early they are not at their best , I would not know but i can vouch for the four outstanding days in country not betterd on this isle , i take as i find. I found them first class a true fell pack when given the oppotunity , LONG MAY THE PENNINE HOUNDS RUN