Moll, forget trying to explain he isn't getting it. It was a great day out (yeah i'm the dick folowing the little staffy/whippet into walls), fantastic in fact. For all the negitive ones who decided to cooment, yeah i agree there were far, far too many dogs if i was on for a serious day going for numbers. It wasn't a day to be all quiet, focused and honing the dogs ferreting skills. We had a walk around some fields with some mates and their dogs. Some got up and caught, most were found by the staffy cross and then taken from the walls. So some of you need stop moaning away and get out with you