I know what your saying Dan, but im talking about GAME dogs here ok (not mine). Now, I work running dogs myself have done all my life of various breeding. I enter them based on the individual dog, I try to show them a good taste of what their life will be about by about 10-12 months old, after this first time I will decide wether or not the dog will need holding back or seeing a bit more. I run various game, and like an all round lurcher, some fail to make my standard, but im prepared to wait until 2 possibly even 3 for the finished article if I belive its in the dog. I wouldnt call any of my