I guess what I'm tryin to say is that this is a big place and our hares, fox, coyotes, deer, cat, lion, hogs, and bear are all different depending on where you live. If uphilldoc trees a 300 pound bear in Idaho thats a monster. If the same size bear is treed in Easter North Carolina they think its half grown, literally half grown. If them boys over on the east coast had a bear that ran like the ones in Idaho they'd think they was running a trash race. Our white tail deer here in Illinois are monsters but you got up north and out west and they are the size of your fallow deer for the most p