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we have something similar here then. we call them sail lines. it's a sail on a wooden X w/floats on the X. you attach a heavy line to it and from the main line you drop various artificial baits (lures, spoons , jigs etc). you let the wind take it out and you bring it back w/ a big fargin reel like you might use to roll up the garden hose. the smart guys rig up an electric motor to the reel and power it off the car battery. it just shows a good idea will keep popping up, even here (this one time i will admit we're pigheaded and slow to learn)
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uphilldoc i've seen pits (and other breeds) caught on a hog w/ their guts wrapped around their legs. i've also seen pits beaten to death on trees by a big hog pried off the ears, deader than hell but still hung on. i'd say they were just as game as any pit dog.
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run him. go check out the terrier section for a thread called "well conditioned pit"
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the heavy fella dropping the jugs was explaining the bait choices dirty nightcrawlers & month old chicken livers. the fella steering the boat was complaining about the flies. in all fairness i had to listen to it twice and laughed fairly hard at them.
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pictures or diagrams would be helpful as well
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should be great for boar.
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L8 for pit dogs in the states to be true gamebred it means, AT A MINIMUM, BOTH parents are proven in the box. (yes multiple generations is the norm but if all the grand parents & great grands are proven and the parents aren't it's no longer gamebred until it proves itself). one match doesn't prove anything, it takes consistant performance to prove gamebreeding. i personally hold the opinion they can show and prove gameness on legal quarry, provided the quarry is sufficiently demanding of their courage, fighting ability and endurance. but most oldtime dogmen would (and in fact a few have)
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L8 the dogo has almost 30 years of hog catching in the USA, beginning w/ the Rankin family in the 80s. and around years in argentina. it started off similar to the Australian crossbred pigdogs. i know a lot of dogo fans try to paint it's creation as calculated genius, but i am pretty sure the founders started off the same as the Ozzies. they found a cross that worked and slowly added new breeds and crosses to the line to improve individual traits. but again it's just a dog. breed well from good workers and you'll get good workers, breed crappy unproven stock and you'll get crappy nonworking
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Nick Marcello's kennel is de calfucara and they had a special association w/ la cocha for a few years. when i say scary i mean it was frightening to watch. this dogo on his very first hog hit so hard the 200# + barr came off it's feet. every hog he hit that weekend was the same way. the other dogo that weekend was the second from Marcello that the guy had owned and both were (according to multiple witnesses) excellent hard catchdogs. they aren't magic or anything, they're still just dogs, some bad, some good and a few extraordinary. because of numbers alone and the volume of crappy nonworking
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Lurcher4 i could write in a book they were created to point turkeys and herd elephants and it wouldn't be true. the american pit bull terrier and the american staffordshire terrier originate from a blending of ALL the different lines or types of bull & terrier that were created in britain and ireland (where most americans came from until the late 1800s). the british & irish bull & terriers were invented for the fighting pits. this cattle herding nonsense is a lie perpetrated by the show fancy just like most of their breed histories, almost all of which can be proven false. for in
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that proposed law was defeated a couple of years ago in 06. but yeah we got citiots that are completely out of touch w/ reality when it comes to wildlife. since ya'll actually have a ban it shows the disease is worldwide. we really need to lock them up before they do anymore damage.
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blackntan where in North Carolina will you be? the Marines have me down on the coast. i get home from Iraq at the end of Oct. will you be doing any terrier work while here? i'd like to see some.
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Rolly i came here to learn and after reading i am thinking a nice white type of terrier that can be called out would be good for flushing fox to my salukiXgrey. as for coon he already does a good job of knocking them off.
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Dan & Nick iv'e hunted behind two dogos bred by Marcello (the gentleman in the pic) one of them at a year old and on his first hunt was the second scariest (in a good way, scared for the pig) catchdog i've ever seen. (the first was a presa canario named Oso, RIP.) the other was a rock solid catchdog who's pic has been posted here by me. i've also hunted behind a few from Los Cazadores kennel in TX. Marcello's dogos are dual purpose (feild & show) and rigorously culled by both him & the boars. Mike's (the owner of Los Cazadores) dogos are pure field type and run about 5-10# lighte
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max although widely and incorrectly used, gamebred literally means bred from dogs proven in the box.
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they use this cross in their packs in argentina. they stop the hog then the dogo catches it and good ones run on after more hogs. for more info ask about it on dogo mans message board hosted by boardhost.
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over here we have something we call jug fishing. you hang a length of heavy line and a hook under a float (milk jugs used to be real popular). put on a chunk of bait usually a big slice of shad or bream or even a whole one. toss them out by the big inflow on a reservoir/lake or off a bridge on a slow section of river or canal. the next morning you run around collecting the jugs and usually a large number of large catfish. only real drawback is you need at least a small skiff or canoe for this.
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rolly folks taking only badger & coyote out west use bigger dogs because the holes are bigger and permit a bigger dog. check out terrier central for more americans working earthdogs.
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most pound puppy petbulls that don't cut it aren't killed by the hog. they get put down because they're unwilling to engage the hog. if they'll catch at all you can fix the where. and as for aggression, well a hotshot has a way of taking the fight out of dogs that won't even blink at a e-collar. but you don't just go to the pound and snatch up any old dog. like i said you got to think about what you're doing. most are there because they were mishandled, period. very few are incurably aggressive (ultimately none are incurable as long as you have a shotgun). the problem w/ people paying real mon
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i believe there are plenty of Alanos capable of doing the job, but the percentage of Alanos in the USA that even get to see a hog are pretty small. the breeds asked about have differences in what they do, but good or better examples of both are dynamite at what they do. i have seen some great purebreds of many breeds but many of the better dogs i have seen have been crossbred. be open minded. also most importantly the only person who has to be happy with the way your dogs work is you. when i'm not in Iraq i'm in North Carolina. come on down and we'll get w/ some freinds of mine to run bear
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even bigger shame in the USA. all industrial farms and greenie nuts stopping logging. all over the country, i've seen less than a dozen rabbit & about the same in gamebirds in the last 5 years.
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i am definitely a tart. please don't tell me i'm the only one who put up his pic. did i ruin it for everyone? it was the gray hair wasn't it! maybe i should've shaved. welcome young lady
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when i joined i had to put up pics of myself naked. what happened to that rule?
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please tell me you bred from it.
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i keep hearing cat loving fools talk about cats as ratters blah blah blah. cats suck, if they even have the sack to take on a rat they don't knock of more than a couple a day. they'd rather take down something soft like a bird. now for arguments sake what's your best take on one trip (either in total or for the amount of time, like 10,000 in one trip or 1,000 in ten minutes out of a longer trip)?