alimac 882 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Its certainly a fine line aint it, not my cup of tea, but if i had one and someone offered 6k to stalk it i for one wouldnt say no... if they want to add to the 2 billion that shooting brings into our economy then who are we to say its wrong You are an antis dream .just provide the ammo they will do the rest. remember last wek i called you out (to no avail) to explain why you thought i was a anti.... now im a antis dream wether someone pays 60 quid or 6 feckin grand to shoot a deer wether its brown, white or pink the priciples are the same.... the same can be said for driven shooting, game fishing etc etc etc Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,102 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 People seem to forget that its the paying gun that has brought the deer to its status today ,that of value and not vermin as most landowners see them .Think on . Quote Link to post
Rabbithunter 456 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 with all the publicity it has had, i'd be suprised if it is still there Quote Link to post
00taz11 39 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) ive seen it lovely looking thing its not worth shooting it and a local stalker that takes me out is willing to pay for it Edited March 29, 2009 by 00taz11 Quote Link to post
Rabbithunter 456 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 i'd be willing to stick £15 in my diesel tank Quote Link to post
The one 8,594 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 As said before treat it as a normal buck if its past its best take it ,sod paying 6k for it bet it tastes the same as the rest . Quote Link to post
NID 0 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 (edited) A bit too deer for me atb NID. Edited March 31, 2009 by NID Quote Link to post
woodga 170 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I BELEIVE FOXHUNTER HAD GRASSED ONE A GOOD FEW YEARS BACK IN DERWENTSIDE IT WAS FEATURED IN A FEW MAGAZINES AND I THINK IT WAS LATER DONE BY A TAXIDERMIST FOR A LOCAL MUSEUM, I KNOW HE WAS BUZZING AT THE TIME Quote Link to post
Yokel Matt 918 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) 6k is a lot of money to most people, but some people are willing to pay it for a trophy. Like alimac say's its no different really to paying for a days driven pheasant or going to woburn for a CWD... and if some genuine country folke can make a few quid out of it then fair play. I think people must be pretty naive if they think money is not an issue when it comes to any form of hunting as there will always be people who have land and experiance and those with who, by neccessity need to pay for access to both. Personally, i don't like to look at a live animal and put a price tag on it, it seems a bit mercenary, but i have paid for stalking before and think it was money well spent as i learnt a lot and had something to show at the end of it. IMO there is a distinct line between paying a premium to stalk a wild trophy animal and looking at a menu of semi-domestic park trophie animals where you can pretty much wind the window down and shoot the thing as it sticks its head in expecting a handful of kibble. Edited to say that i agree with FD, the paying gun has certainly turned what was once a pest to, in many cases, an income stream. The damage they do is still the same and no doubt there is sometimes a conflict of interest although i hope that stalking does not become tarnished with the same bad press as some commercial pheasant shoots. Edited April 1, 2009 by Local Quote Link to post
BIGPETE 0 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 People seem to forget that its the paying gun that has brought the deer to its status today ,that of value and not vermin as most landowners see them .Think on . Reckon you need to go a bit further back in history than that, foxdropper. Local's post makes a lot of sense and touches on the fact that many stalkers, through necessity have to pay to shoot. It will still only be a very small proportion of those stalkers who would be willing or could afford to pay £6k for a white roe!. I have to admit that aside from a bit of bunny bashing every bit of my shooting is paid for. I love every aspect of the sport but not from lack of trying I can not secure any suitable permission. Work coleagues and friends prefer watching football or peeing their money up against a wall so networking to find a contact that way has not helped either!. My budget is around £500-1000 per year, all spent on paid stalking etc. A sum(plus a bit more) which I would much rather spend on my own set up, if I had somewhere to use it!! It is not my intension to elevate the status of OUR beloved quarry but if my only option is to pay, then until I find permission it will have to be that way. When I read your (and other posts) it does indeed turn me green with envy and to be fair it was reading such articles that first got my juices flowing and a paid visit to Hulne Park had me hooked from then on. So please in future try and be a touch more sympathetic towards paying guns, we are not all able spend fortunes at the drop of a hat, some of us have to work hard and save to support the sport we love. Regards, Pete. Quote Link to post
wboulter 3 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 couldnt agree more i have paid for stalking its the only way some can get stalking and its no different to buying a driven day on pheasants or buying a days pigeon decoying its the old saying you get nothing for nothing in this world i am hoping to go to south africa next year got to pay for every thing out there thay want £1150.00 to shoot a buffalo some people have got the money to shoot things and if thats what thay want to spend it on so be it, it goes without saying i am not shooting one its going to cost a small fortune but if its what you want i cant see the harm in it if i had 6k to spare i would shoot it Quote Link to post
2434me 13 Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 "You play the game to the level you can afford " Whether its Roe stalking Car racing Golf etc etc etc We nearly all started off with rabbits or pigeons with a cheap shotgun. Then we went on to Rough shooting or wildfowling. Now we have big rifles and go after foxes and deer. As you climb the ladder we look for something different or something we haven't shot before . Maybe a woodcock ?or a greylag? We always remember our first of whatever it was . If you can afford it and you already have a couple of Gold medals hanging on the wall.Where do you go from there ? You go for things that are different ! Abnormal Roe heads or a perruque , which are in short supply so cost more than usual. A white Roe is nothing more than one of those different things we haven't got . Granted 6 K is money most of us just don't have ,but to others 6K is just a drop in a bucket . If the stalker gets his 6 grand ,then good luck to him !! Its the only 6 grand Roe buck he will get in his lifetime . The Glenfarclass buck which had a white back end and a normal front end was seen regularly at the side of the road quite happily feeding away ,and people decided not to shoot the animal . It ended up being hit by a truck !!! (I was informed that it was mounted and now in a shop in forres ????) Its Buck season now , If I was him I would get the 6 grand in my back pocket ASP and get back to normal . Good luck to him . Quote Link to post
Guest Catcher Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Its certainly a fine line aint it, not my cup of tea, but if i had one and someone offered 6k to stalk it i for one wouldnt say no... if they want to add to the 2 billion that shooting brings into our economy then who are we to say its wrong You are an antis dream .just provide the ammo they will do the rest. remember last wek i called you out (to no avail) to explain why you thought i was a anti.... now im a antis dream wether someone pays 60 quid or 6 feckin grand to shoot a deer wether its brown, white or pink the priciples are the same.... the same can be said for driven shooting, game fishing etc etc etc Your missing the point mate.Something as rare as that.I think should be left .And i dont think you are an anti. It,s just a way of getting a point across.atb catcher Quote Link to post
harry mac 1 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Your missing the point mate.Something as rare as that.I think should be left .And i dont think you are an anti. It,s just a way of getting a point across.atb catcher It's not a rare breed or sub species, it's a genetic freak. Good management would be to remove it from the gene pool and observe for it happening again for the next couple of years. Any more that appear should be taken out as well. Quote Link to post
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