juckler123 707 Posted May 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Yeah mate as i said i never bred the dogs i had to a greyhound only wish i had they were leaner than kaneys taller too some the same colour and some orange brindle with yellow eyes got no pics either but i think i can get hold of some i wil try anyway by rights they shouldnt have thrown so lean but they did i put the same neo across three diferrent bullmastif bitches and the pups were all even the pups i kept all entered themselves to rabbits and brambles or anything else couldnt stop em i had given up with running dogs at the time[laid off for 8 years] and although i could see the potential in them i never bred em to a greyhound but i should have bet my last tenner on such a cross being the buisness on them big uns youve just got to look at kaneys bred bigger and faster[not that i wouldnt say their not fast enough cos i bet they are especialy on a mucky night] i think such a dog would do the job admirably cos lets be right them big uns are some opponent ive had deer dogs and none of em have been able to handle a fallow stag single handed never mind a red or doubled up for that matter. i should think theyd be well fast enough i never had a problem slipping on fallow stags lamping from the woodside the problem was stopping em Quote Link to post
kaney 9 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 When you say they would be the business on toothed quarry, what benefits would they have over the dogs that are already doing it? I personally can't see any. JMO Absolutely none but after all the alaunt recreation is just an ammalgamation of what is allready out there bread to an individuals ideal all i know of them is that they have a high prey drive and as all ready stated in this thread put back to a greyound would without doubt be equal to any allready out there doing the job they were bread for .To be honest that was orriginally my thought when i bought the first bitch but they are only pups and apart from snatching the odd rabbit when my little dogs are bushing i have not done much with them but as thay matute and the opportunity arrises then they will get tryed out but well wait to they are phyically and mentally mature p.s stabs your 24lb bitch in the smallest staffs thread what else is in her make up she looks v usefull Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 put back to a greyound would without doubt be equal to any allready out there doing the job they were bread for . Not trying to piss on your chips or anything, but would they be equal to a game bulldog put over a good greyhound? As I say, not trying to pick holes.....just trying to understand the what the craic is. p.s stabs your 24lb bitch in the smallest staffs thread what else is in her make up she looks v usefull black stuff Quote Link to post
kaney 9 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 put back to a greyound would without doubt be equal to any allready out there doing the job they were bread for . Not trying to piss on your chips or anything, but would they be equal to a game bulldog put over a good greyhound? As I say, not trying to pick holes.....just trying to understand the what the craic is. p.s stabs your 24lb bitch in the smallest staffs thread what else is in her make up she looks v usefull black stuff Prob not, just using what was at hand at the time as i have said did not breed them and i am certainly not trying to reinvent the wheel nor annoy any individual just happen to like the dogs i have in my yard did orriginally have in mind using a grey hound on them purely because i could not find what i was originally looking for as u know well bred stock is like rocking horse shit and after falling flat and being let down by a few names came across these alaunts watched them mature and they suit me as much as yours suit you and i have not tasted chips that have been pissed on since the naafi in bruggen in the 80s but as they say thats adifferent story :sick: Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 i have not tasted chips that have been pissed on since the naafi in bruggen in the 80s but as they say thats adifferent story :sick: Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Kaney did you breed them yourself and how are they bred their very similar to the neo xs i used to breed just smaller and they do look well usefull the main reason i can see for recreating these dogs is if anyone wanted a serious campaign on the larger quarry in the uk imo they would be ideal ive also always thought a large fast alount type would put a good show on the charlies and old long ears i saw a 32 inch greyhound once kill 12 out of 12 hares running up and down hill at ledenham tops near lincoln this dog was massive but made old sally look easy i saw the owner turn down 2000 pound for this dog saying that wouldnt even buy its toenail and this was in 76 i honestly thought the dog wouldnt have been able to turn at that size but it could and its stride was unbelievable also if you look at the hare when i started out hares were a lot smaller jacks 3-4 pound, does were lucky to make 6-7 look at em today anything up to 12 pound is possible and in some areas that size is about normal wether this increase is down to better crops or them getting bigger due to exercise i dont know but they are definitely larger yet the lurcher has stayed the same size if i lived up north or was running on the fens i should have liked a go at breeding something humongus just for the crack for petes sake kaney dont breed one of them to a greyhound cos i dont think i could resist not only that with a big dog by your side you aint got the worries about no one i like a dog that dont trust strangers as i go out alone and keepers are never as brave when youve got 4 legged backup and think of the money you could earn not having to pass up on the ultimate british quarry the monarch of the glenn i know i only ever took one and that needed three dogs on it wheras with a big beestie by your side they would have no trouble of course this is only a pipe dream what do you lads reckon! Hairypie your right on the money and i honestly cant see much litter wastage as this is usually caused by shortness of leg something that dogs like kaneys definitely dont suffer from. juckler mate a greyhound taking 12 out of 12 hares, what time of year was this and are you stating it was on the same day. their will be 12lb hares about but most probably this time of year, they are more than likley to be between the 6 and 8lb when fit during the winter months. Thats just what i was thinking..... 12/12 hares, sounds like an old wifes tale to me. Unless they were in a foot of snow :whistle: and i would love to see the dog around that could pull a red stag single handed. A red stag wil run off with one lurcher let me tell you Quote Link to post
skinnyrat 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 12 /12 seems an awful lot for a pure greyhound to be running never mind catching Quote Link to post
shotup 9 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 i once seen a gypsys grehound take 12/12. we went to lincon to buy a pup out of this gypo,s grehound and when we got there the yard was full of pups and the bitch was running free. we doubted that the the bitch could kill anything so he just told us to follow him into the field at the back of his yard even though the bitch still had milk on her. sure enough a hare rose 50 ydrs away and no sooner than it got up to it it was dead and bringing it back, then up rose another before it had got to us the bitch dropped the first hare and coursed it round a big field over some plough then turned it fetched right back and killed it right in front of us. we couldnt believe it it was that good then our new found friend said look over your shoulder and we turned around to see each of the pups carrying a levert.. Quote Link to post
Guest sushie Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Very nice picture chalkwarren! I wonder what happend next? :whistle: :whistle: Quote Link to post
chartpolski 28,146 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 Dogs these days are getting superhuman, (or should that be "super canine" ?), it used to be a good dog took 3 out of 3, then it went to 6 out of 6, now 12 out of 12 !!!!!! Where do I get one of these dogs, and where do I find that many hares ? Cheers. Quote Link to post
LDR 29 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 i bet half these 12 out of 12 boys are talking over a few days........ .......i've had 20 out of 21 birds........... but over 2 weeks............ ..... :kiss: Quote Link to post
TOMO 29,006 Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 12 OUT OF 12. :whistle: ....... 4LB JACK HARES........(do you meam levrets) GUESS THE MONTH OF YEAR i also used to do a lot of running just near leadenham, newark to sleaford road Quote Link to post
Guest hairypie Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 put back to a greyound would without doubt be equal to any allready out there doing the job they were bread for . Not trying to piss on your chips or anything, but would they be equal to a game bulldog put over a good greyhound? As I say, not trying to pick holes.....just trying to understand the what the craic is. p.s stabs your 24lb bitch in the smallest staffs thread what else is in her make up she looks v usefull black stuff difrent dogs for difrent jobs ! i certanly would want to employ one of these dogs if it was bred down two gens to a greyhound ..... Quote Link to post
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