GSD x GREYHOUND

[sniper 30]

does anybody work these,if so how are they compared to other crosses,i remeber there was a litter but forget now who had them,do they through black & tan like the GSD,would of thought they'd be pretty clever,cheers

 

Sniper

[TOMO 28,500]

skycat off here has one, mind you theres not many crosses she hasn't got i think its coming on well for her, im shure she will see the thread . and fill you in.

 

a lad i know had gsdxgrey x bullxgrey, was a good allrounder on the lamp

[Penda 3,355]

A thew lads i know have had them good dogs mate they love the fox and the deer

[skycat 6,174]

skycat off here has one, mind you theres not many crosses she hasn't got i think its coming on well for her, im shure she will see the thread . and fill you in.

 

a lad i know had gsdxgrey x bullxgrey, was a good allrounder on the lamp

 

 

LOL @ Tomo!

 

All bar one of that litter were brindle and the one was black, but the dam was a white GSD.

 

Yes, its a cross I was interested in for a long time having had Shepherds many years ago. Intelligence and biddability wise I can't fault her, but she is a big old lump for rabbits: 33 kilos! Yikes! Her feet aren't the best either: suffers on very hard ground and struggles on boggy going. I've seen other first crosses come up a lot lighter built than mine though. Having said all that, I'd never part with her: she's got incredible prey drive and if the ground's right she'll mop up rabbits all night long. If I did a bit more ferreting with her she'd be top at that too, but still a little green right now: the Sparrer is my main ferreting dog.

 

Steve Barton, who was someone who bred GSD crosses many years ago still swears by them. I saw his young dog before he moved to NZ and it was much more up on the leg than mine, fantastic feet and the build to make a thoroughly good all round lurcher. I think they must vary quite a bit in shape/weight etc, and I wonder, does it make a lot of difference using a GSD as the dam? Do they throw more to that side? Mine certainly looks like a big leggy GSD. Great stamina but overheats when the weather is anything except cold and damp! The more it rains the better she likes it: I think this is one of the reasons they don't put GSD into their hunting dogs much in Australia.

 

Hunting wise: she has an incredible nose, drive and is very fast (huge stride) but can turn quite well for her size. All she's seen is rabbits so far. Very slow to mature so next season I'll get her on some different stuff and we'll see how we go. I know she'll track shot and wounded deer though and as I said earlier, her nose is something else. Very easy to train as well, but she is very submissive: a dominant one might be a little more difficult!

 

Not the sort of dog to just leave in a kennel 6 days out of 7: very intelligent and sensitive and they need something to do or I could see them being a right pain in the a**e! Need stock breaking early too. As a general companion, mooching and all round dog I reckon they're great. Not for the heavy handed or impatient owner due to their nature but in the right hands a cracking dog. That's my opinion anyway, though I've only the one so could hardly say I know them all.

 

If I was going to have another one I'd put mine back to a lightly built mainly sighthound type lurcher, something with a dash of Collie, dash of Saluki, but not big or heavy in build at all: that way you'd hopefully retain the GSD biddability but lighten up the body a bit.

[jimmy0211 2]

my dad had said he had one who wouldnt catch foxes so gave him to a mate in yorkshire (i think) dad will probs tell you more about it,

 

couple of pics of pics

 

 

Edited February 1, 2009 by jimmy0211

[sniper 30]

Thanks for the replies..

Skycat did you have a brindle or pick the black

smart dog there Jimmy

[skycat 6,174]

Brindle: the only one left out of the litter. Would I have chosen any of the others? I don't know, probably not: I've got a good feeling about this one and she is very easy to live with: full on in the field and at home you don't know she's there. Incidently, she was the one I picked from the photos Heart of Wales put up on here when he bred the litter, and she was the one I ended up with: strange how things work out. Superbly intelligent animal but not manic like some Collies.

[chartpolski 27,651]

Heres a 1/4 GSD, 3/4 Greyhound, bred by Typp Ratcher. Evidendly the whole litter threw racy;

 

 

Cheers.

[samba 534]

my dad had said he had one who wouldnt catch foxes so gave him to a mate in yorkshire (i think) dad will probs tell you more about it,

 

couple of pics of pics

 

 

the dog wasnt called skeet was it mate had one that look same in south yorks

[heart of wales 19]

 

This The one I choose in so far she has accounted for 84 rabbits and Two shot hares retrieved of course one she brought back was alive,easily trainable,perfect ferreting long netting dog so laid back she is near enough sleeping until the rumble and then those radar ears pick it up and she is away suprising turn of speed for a big dog very agile,she has seen bigger prey will be starting fully soon.Been asked if I would breed her I wouldnt until I have seen her retrieving foxes,One of the other pups went to someone in Cwmbran a Mate bought a Falcon off him and he was chuffed to bits with his.Wouldnt buy one if your a rossete hunter though working dog only.

[Back Stabbath 1]

If you want to breed a GSD cross, it has to be from working GSD lines. That way you won't get the chance of dogs not working, hip dysplasia, bad feet, or generally just being unable to work properly because of the bad show bred GSD shape.

 

You wouldn't breed a highly show bred Boder Collie to lurchers, its even more important with GSD's to have solid working lines.

 

(also stay away from white GSD's, or you're asking for problems)

 

 

Typical working line GSD's -

 

 

Typical show/pet line GSD's -

 

Edited February 1, 2009 by Back Stabbath

[heart of wales 19]

Have to agree only breed from working lines,you only have to look at the back on the show type to see what sort of problems you are going to have, I would only ever consider breeding a lurcher from working lines ,both the bitch a White Gsd and the Greyhound extremly efficent fox killers and proven track dog ,however would have to disagree about white in all the White Gsd I have seen locally and the line mine came from exellent temprement.

The Dam will catch rabbits on the lamp and kill foxes pre ban brilliant with kids you dont see a great deal in trials but neither do you see them in shows because white black or long coated ae not kc breed standard not a bad thing if you want to keep away from the show stuff.

[sniper 30]

Heart of Wales nice dog there mate..

Chartpolski like the 3/4 bred,is that how the whole litter through,because that looks fairly racy to me mate cracker anyhow mate,is he/she yours?

Black Stabbath really like the top GSD pictured,cracking dog mate.

Would it matter if say you bred a litter of this cross and the dam was the GSD,would that affect the pups speed rather than doing it Greyhound dam bred?

cheers....

[chartpolski 27,651]

Heart of Wales nice dog there mate..

Chartpolski like the 3/4 bred,is that how the whole litter through,because that looks fairly racy to me mate cracker anyhow mate,is he/she yours?

Black Stabbath really like the top GSD pictured,cracking dog mate.

Would it matter if say you bred a litter of this cross and the dam was the GSD,would that affect the pups speed rather than doing it Greyhound dam bred?

cheers....

 

No mate, that bitch was bred and owned by Typp, out of his half x GSD and a greyhound bitch. She was only about 8 month old there, and as far as I know, all the litter were about the same stamp... looked a bit like 1/4 collie 3/4 grey to me.

Cheers.

[heart of wales 19]

There is all different theories on breeding lurcher first cross,mine GSD DAM to Greyhound Sire she has bags of speed more than enough for rabbits and ok for retrieving hares,Probably not as fast as Whippet Grey or Saluki Grey,but fast enough,she will as soon as I have spotted something on the lamp if I knock the light out she will run out in the dark to the spot light back on she is near enough on her quarry,she does not miss a great deal.

In my opinion the most important thing is that both parents tick all the boxes for me they both gave that in abundance,the Dam had plenty of speed agility courage and inteligence hunts cover for fun plenty of stamina,the Sire was not only a proven track dog but a proven Sire also his sons and daughter won the Lurcher racing and coursing at our show and many other and the both exelled on the lamp,and preban he devoured foxes.

Take all that in to account and your in with a good shout,I have an exellent Gsd dog nothing like show breeding weighs in about 50kilos heavy boned cracking temprement this is him marking a fox but to heavilly built to make a lurcher in my opinion

Put him to a small greyhound and you probably still end up with big pups depends what you want them for,