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ten years ago here in ireland walk around any lurcher show you could nearly say ever dog done some work but the thing now seems to be trophy hunting as all i seem to hear these day is my dog won this my dog won that very rarely a working dog wins in the show ring and even some the one that do work there dogs get them out once a week if there lucky and and bum and blow about it does any one eles get the feeling that alot of people breed no longer for working abilty and try to get the best looking or fatest dog around and then working abilty is next on the list for me it has to be worker to work never minded looks if looks could kill i would have a yard full of buetys

 

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ten years ago here in ireland walk around any lurcher show you could nearly say ever dog done some work but the thing now seems to be trophy hunting as all i seem to hear these day is my dog won this my dog won that very rarely a working dog wins in the show ring and even some the one that do work there dogs get them out once a week if there lucky and and bum and blow about it does any one eles get the feeling that alot of people breed no longer for working abilty and try to get the best looking or fatest dog around and then working abilty is next on the list for me it has to be worker to work never minded looks if looks could kill i would have a yard full of buetys

 

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you have to laugh, its usually some toffee nose woman trotting their dog round the ring, you can spot them a mile off! :tongue2:

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A dog should not be bred for one thing alone, ie it should not be bred for JUST working with no consideration of conformation, temprement and health and visa versa a working breed should not be bred for just conformation/showing qualities. I know this rarely happens but it should be the way every breeder thinks. As a breeder you should do your upmost to produce well rounded healthy pups that will live a full happy and active working life.

In this country we have 3 types of working breed, those that are bred for work, those that are bred for show and those that are bred for both, i personally prefer those that are bred for both.

If you take labs as an example you have the big fat lumps that frequent the show ring that quite obviously would be out of place in the feild. You have the working labs that are increasingly snipey/sharp and sometimes aggressive and far away from the breed standard and then you get the ones that are able to do both work and show and are close to the breed standard without losing any working ability.

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alot of the shows like that now even worse

in england when i was over there.

but living in south of ire i know

a few plenty of die hard hunters up north

who will travel anywhere to hunt their dogs.

just have to take the good with the bad.

i will say the terrier lads that do well up there

can be a click some times with no sign of work at all.

sickens me to be honest

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my dog tom came 1st for working dog, and 2nd from bull breed.

 

He was in the final but is dog aggressive and was really playing up so to be fair to the others in the show we pulled him out. We were later told tht the dog would have won...and his picture would have been in the countrymans weekly! how gay is that lol

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my dog tom came 1st for working dog, and 2nd from bull breed.

 

He was in the final but is dog aggressive and was really playing up so to be fair to the others in the show we pulled him out. We were later told tht the dog would have won...and his picture would have been in the countrymans weekly! how gay is that lol

 

Congratulations mate, its always nice when you get picked but to show you have to be able to handle the fact that not every judge will like your dog i think thats what puts alot of working dog people off, that and the fact that the number of non working lurchers in the show ring are increasing! And if they beat you it can be a little, no ALOT!, annoying!

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your very right in what you say and you will never have a great worker if the movement is not there i would not breed of a dog that has fults ie bad jaw feet weak hind quarter and any one that knows abit about working dog would not breed any bad fuelts into there dogs but working abilty is very hight on the agenda of wants in your line most these show dog that are winning have been breed that long for looks in minded that i belive that would not have what it take to produce the goods in the field but can win a working lurcher show this is really the judges fult for picking out such dogs rarely have there feet got dirty

 

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ten years ago here in ireland walk around any lurcher show you could nearly say ever dog done some work but the thing now seems to be trophy hunting as all i seem to hear these day is my dog won this my dog won that very rarely a working dog wins in the show ring and even some the one that do work there dogs get them out once a week if there lucky and and bum and blow about it does any one eles get the feeling that alot of people breed no longer for working abilty and try to get the best looking or fatest dog around and then working abilty is next on the list for me it has to be worker to work never minded looks if looks could kill i would have a yard full of buetys

 

robert

 

 

No problem with whatever lurchers are bred for as long as the breed continues, and as long as the make up is never compromised, a lurcher should look like it is capable of working, have no faults, moves well, conformation sound, even temperement , enough speed, strength and strike.

 

At a rough estimate 90% of lurchers at shows do not work, but a show is just that a beauty competition, my own lurchers would come 4th if three were entered, however the show enthusiasts ensure the breed and popularity continues, the many lurcher clubs across the country would have long gone bankrupt without the support at shows and those who only work their dogs would not provide the revenue to maintain clubs.

 

The show scene used to be a bit of fun in the summer when the lurchers weren't working but took off big style, sometimes we lose track of this and the win at all cost takes over, this is the down side of any animal shows. Lets not knock lurcher owners just do what we want to do and live and let live, we all have the welare of lurchers at heart.

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some very good points there and i know what you mean as i run the NI working whippet club and we put on a few shows with a good turn out usaly but we put on a working whippet class where the dog must work but we end up with very few enteres very good points

 

robert

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ten years ago here in ireland walk around any lurcher show you could nearly say ever dog done some work but the thing now seems to be trophy hunting as all i seem to hear these day is my dog won this my dog won that very rarely a working dog wins in the show ring and even some the one that do work there dogs get them out once a week if there lucky and and bum and blow about it does any one eles get the feeling that alot of people breed no longer for working abilty and try to get the best looking or fatest dog around and then working abilty is next on the list for me it has to be worker to work never minded looks if looks could kill i would have a yard full of buetys

 

robert

 

i know [bANNED TEXT] u mean boys that bum and blow about dogs lol

dats y me and u dug my bitch twice other day 2 in the pot both times

cos boys dog didnt do [bANNED TEXT] he said [bANNED TEXT] a joke he wos lol :clapper:

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only been to 2 shows since we've had tom, 1st was somewhere near minehead.

A lady there spoke to the judges and had 2 pure whippets thrown out of the LURCHER show when she had what looked to me like a pure greyhound herself

 

then when the winners were announced the judge called the woman by her 1st name cheating b*****ds

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ten years ago here in ireland walk around any lurcher show you could nearly say ever dog done some work but the thing now seems to be trophy hunting as all i seem to hear these day is my dog won this my dog won that very rarely a working dog wins in the show ring and even some the one that do work there dogs get them out once a week if there lucky and and bum and blow about it does any one eles get the feeling that alot of people breed no longer for working abilty and try to get the best looking or fatest dog around and then working abilty is next on the list for me it has to be worker to work never minded looks if looks could kill i would have a yard full of buetys

 

robert

 

i know [bANNED TEXT] u mean boys that bum and blow about dogs lol

dats y me and u dug my bitch twice other day 2 in the pot both times

cos boys dog didnt do [bANNED TEXT] he said [bANNED TEXT] a joke he wos lol :clapper:

that second dig would not of been any where near as hard if the dog was not ten foot of just aswell one out of three terriers new there job

 

robert

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