chay 0 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 hi has anyone got any unusuall recall tips ive tried all i can think of to get the wifes collie {it has a touch of something racey through it} to recall. basically she is a quick dog but will not come back once she has ran a rabbit.a couple of my m8s are good with dogs but nothing theyve suggested works or it has had little effect.any advice would be appreciated. getting rid of the dog is not an option.its the wifes Quote Link to post
LDR 29 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 what have you tried so far? Quote Link to post
chay 0 Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 what have you tried so far? BASICALLY ALL THE STUFF FROM SITTIN IN THE BED THROWING TOYS [THE DOGS BED] CHECK LEADS REWARD TRAINIG AT A OBEDIANCE SCHOOOL.BUT I THINK THE MAIN PROBLEM IS THE DOGS 18 MONTHS IM TRYING 2 MAKE THE BEST OF A BAD THING BUT GETTING NO WHERE!!! I AM DESPERATE THE DOG COULD BE REALLY USEFULL IVE BROKE HER 2 FERRETS SHE WAITS AT THE BURROW MARKS WELL DOESNT GIVE TOUNGE BUT I JUST CANT GET THIS BIT THANKS Quote Link to post
maty j 6 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 are you saying that once the ferret has bolted one, the dog pursues but if it misses it carrys on hunting up? Quote Link to post
chay 0 Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 are you saying that once the ferret has bolted one, the dog pursues but if it misses it carrys on hunting up? yeah the dog self hunts then if it finds nout then just wanders off .but even if im just walking through a park and let her off she just takes off .but like i say when the ferrets down she knows wots coming so shes interested.ive known guys who trained rescue dogs so iim hoping its nae her age .i think she is just a stubborn f+*$er. Iknow its a shitty problem without seeing it or the dog so ido appreciate any thoughts thanks 4 replying hope 2 here back Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 12,023 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 are you saying that once the ferret has bolted one, the dog pursues but if it misses it carrys on hunting up? yeah the dog self hunts then if it finds nout then just wanders off .but even if im just walking through a park and let her off she just takes off .but like i say when the ferrets down she knows wots coming so shes interested.ive known guys who trained rescue dogs so iim hoping its nae her age .i think she is just a stubborn f+*$er. Iknow its a shitty problem without seeing it or the dog so ido appreciate any thoughts thanks 4 replying hope 2 here back have you tried crouching down and tapping your thighs it works with my 5 month pup.if not carry treats in pocket once the dog knows their in it they won t stray far in fact it probably wont leave your side. Quote Link to post
mick the fish 9 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 find its fav treat and only use it 4 recall. or run in other direction calling him its a bit Quote Link to post
chay 0 Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 find its fav treat and only use it 4 recall. or run in other direction calling him its a bit cheers guys nae bothered if i look like a twat just want the dog going il run anywrere if it mite work Quote Link to post
rocket ronnie 243 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 my dog can be the same [bANNED TEXT] a right stubbern fecker but the treats wrked for me an he is gettin there bit by bit comin on well now Quote Link to post
LDR 29 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Does the dog know its place? ie, you're the pack leader, you need to have this in place, before anything else. IMO the dog should look to you for everything, that way once the chase is finished, she should be looking to you to see whats next, which will be you doing a recall and like everyone else has said, rewarded with its favourite treat. I had a bitch like yours and for a while i thought oh well its not like i'm a professional pest controller, but it can turn real bad if they f**k off onto a main road...... Quote Link to post
woodga 170 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Does the dog know its place? ie, you're the pack leader, you need to have this in place, before anything else. IMO the dog should look to you for everything, that way once the chase is finished, she should be looking to you to see whats next, which will be you doing a recall and like everyone else has said, rewarded with its favourite treat. I had a bitch like yours and for a while i thought oh well its not like i'm a professional pest controller, but it can turn real bad if they f**k off onto a main road...... a dogs not stupid if it realises it can get away with this it will continue when the dog returns put it on the lead and give nhim a bit of a rag ie nip his ear ect let him know your the boss next time he goes off the same thing the dog eventually realises that when it runs off it will get into bother my [bANNED TEXT] took his lurcher out lamping and it was exactly the same hunting up after a chase at the end of the evening it was comingb straight back in and getting a reward if it stepped out of line it got punished your the boss [bANNED TEXT] let your dog know that GOOD HUNTING ALL WOODGA :ph34r: Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 a dogs not stupid if it realises it can get away with this it will continue when the dog returns put it on the lead and give nhim a bit of a rag ie nip his ear ect let him know your the boss next time he goes off the same thing the dog eventually realises that when it runs off it will get into botherL WOODGA :ph34r: be careful if you punish a dog when it comes back as far as the dog is concerned it is being punished for returning so will be even less likely to come back! patience and time spent away from game training will help, if you use treats then reduce the amount you feed by the amount of treats as they work better if a dogs a little peckish. and don't give an order unless you can inforce it on the training field! Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Personally I would work on the recall away from hunting. Taking ther dog ferreting and then trying (and failing) to recall the dog is just reinforcing the bad behaviour. PM me if you want a couple of ideas as it's too long to type here. As sandymere says the worst thing to do is punish the dog when it returns. Quote Link to post
Guest DogFaceKillah Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 my dog used to do this alot, but after a while she clicked on she was putting all the bunnes to ground after a slip, she soon realised me her master, new best and set her up for good slips with a better chance of her gettin her quarry, now she has a slip then comes straight back to slip. all i use is a whistle, but try all methods these guys tell you, and find the one with the best results Quote Link to post
dickyboy 1 Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 you say its your wifes dog - is it mainly hers and looking at her as her master (Collies can be a bit devoted to one person) get to know the dog away from hunting and training, just play ball or something in the park till she thinks the world of you then try reward based training, i've found that they may not even need treats as a good word from their master is praise enough particularly collies.....also try silly high pitch voices when praising as this means more to a dog than any word ever will Quote Link to post
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