Deker 3,453 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Ok....just bought my lad a brand new Escort Magnum, 5 days and about 40 shots later the choke disintegrated and the barrel end ballooned in a very worrying fashion. Obviously went back and replacement collected today. We all know this is a rare event (especially as the gun is proofed to 3" magnum) but the more I think about it the luckier I am to be alive, as most of the time he was shooting it I was stood at his side..the barrel could only have been 1 or 2 shots at the most from blowing up! The distributors have replaced it fairly quickly (8 days) but not so much as a sorry, I think a little more humility and compensation could be in order.... .....your views appreciated!!! Quote Link to post
hotel2zero 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Lucky as you say mate Quote Link to post
mattydski 560 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 It may be worth making your views know to the distributer rathen than the seller. A word to the customer service department expressing your concerns would not go amiss. If no 'compo' appears, escalate it to the next level of complaint. They should eventually cave in..... Matt Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,100 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Feck me I got one waiting in the shop for me, I did got the 26" 3 1/2" magnum as they couldn't get the 28" version. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 How on earth that gun passed a 3" Magnum and 3" High Performance Steel Proof, worries me greatly! You were lucky Deker, the thing of mixing 12 and 20 bore shotguns is bad enough, blow the chambers, maybe loose a finger at worst. But the rest of the barrel? The shot and shrapnel could have been anywhere. Im Glad you were alright, but I'd want a Full Proof House examination and report put together, and I'd want a very sincere apology from the company. I have an Escort Auto there and I use it with all loads from Marsh stuff to 2 3/4 clay loads. Get intouch with them and the Proof House if I were you. They are Birmingham Proofed Regards SS Quote Link to post
kirstysdad 827 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 must of got a bad one i have got the 28 inch 3 inch magnum no problems with it but will be keeping an eye on it from now on Quote Link to post
Deker 3,453 Posted September 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 How on earth that gun passed a 3" Magnum and 3" High Performance Steel Proof, worries me greatly! You were lucky Deker, the thing of mixing 12 and 20 bore shotguns is bad enough, blow the chambers, maybe loose a finger at worst. But the rest of the barrel? The shot and shrapnel could have been anywhere. Im Glad you were alright, but I'd want a Full Proof House examination and report put together, and I'd want a very sincere apology from the company. I have an Escort Auto there and I use it with all loads from Marsh stuff to 2 3/4 clay loads. Get intouch with them and the Proof House if I were you. They are Birmingham Proofed Regards SS My suspicions are that it was the choke at fault, when that started to fail and disintegrate the pressure mounted on the barrel.....but it was proofed (apparently going back to proof house for report)...so I am after more info/compensation/apology...this may go on for a while!! Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Good luck with it mate, I definitely think you should push for apology/compensation, that was bloody dangerous! Quote Link to post
mudman 14 Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 My brother bought one three years ago. He HATES it, had a fair bit of bother with it, nothing dangerous but jams and the locking nut locked on one occasion . It hardly fits him, (does it really fit anyone with such a short stock???) but the strange thing is, he hardly misses anything with it! thats why he still has it. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,453 Posted September 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 (edited) Eh - Up, Ere we go, calm down and steady on everyone.......I admit and accept it is not the best gun in the world....I knew this when I bought it,,,but is has spacers to adjust the butt drop/cast and 3 additional spacers to adjust the length of pull...on top of this it is multi choke, (5 supplied) 3" Magnum and under £300 brand new!!!! The gun is my lads, he has grown up and learnt on my collection of Berettas over the years, but this is all black, stylish and the sort of thing that young lads fancy...and he chose it. It was accepted, discussed and agreed by all up front, that this was not the best gun in the world, but it was also accepted that as HIS first shotgun it was one to learn from and really decide the good, bad, indifferent bits and build on that when buying his next. The reality is Birmingham proofed this and something has gone wrong, terrifying, but we got away with it this time! Financially I can't loose more than £300 on it...seems a reasonable starting point!! Edited September 20, 2008 by Deker Quote Link to post
Goonie 0 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Just had the same thing happen to me and gun on its way back to Edgar Bros as we speak....Not to sure what to do now..They are going to send me a new gun but not keen on this happening again...seen pictures of what can happen and like all my fingers as they are... Help please as new member and still cant believe this has happened more than once ...... Quote Link to post
landrover 6 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 NOTas rare as you think unless this guy is your mate http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=69156 Quote Link to post
Guest JohnGalway Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Money back, different gun please and stuff your apology if it were me. But I'm a cranky type at the best of times :realmad: NOTas rare as you think unless this guy is your matehttp://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=69156 I knew I'd seen this somewhere else before, thanks for dismissing the thoughts that I had early onset Alzheimer's. Quote Link to post
riggers 2 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 mate me and my friend both had the 30 inch one and it was a peice of crap when we fired magnums out of it it blew the ring on the gas cylinder to bits we got it replaced and then the firing pins started to break mate get rid of it they are going to seriously injure some one Quote Link to post
claybusers al 9 Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 i have a commercial clay ground and in the last 2 years i have had 2 of these come apart in customers hands both experienced shooters 1 of them had the fore end fly almost 15yds down the valley and is still there in the grass somewhere you get what you pay for webly and scott are made in the same place and also suffer problems Quote Link to post
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