LDR 29 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I feed mine a barf diet when the weather cools down a bit, but have started a bit early this year, i dont recall this before, but their shit has gone hard, one of them is a white colur and the lurcher is passing black, same consistancy though just different colours, any ideas?????????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scouser3038 1 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I feed mine a barf diet when the weather cools down a bit, but have started a bit early this year, i dont recall this before, but their shit has gone hard, one of them is a white colur and the lurcher is passing black, same consistancy though just different colours, any ideas?????????? My dogs have white shits when i feed them bones ie chicken wings, breast of lamb etc. Not to sure about the black shit though?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kozzi 0 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Normally have the 'white' for boney food and 'black' for very bloody meat such as horse meat which hasn't been hung and offal such as liver ect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chicken george 38 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 can you feed whole chicken carcasses or are there any bones that would cause a problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueCoyote 0 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 can you feed whole chicken carcasses or are there any bones that would cause a problem? i think that would depend on the size of the dog wouldnt it? mine gets a whole carcass - most of the guts removed but the heart, liver and gizzard though.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 6,763 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 are there any bones that would cause a problem? Not if their raw mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chicken george 38 Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 are there any bones that would cause a problem? Not if their raw mate. cheers mate just started feeding mine raw little bit worried as i havent used chicken before Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 are there any bones that would cause a problem? Not if their raw mate. cheers mate just started feeding mine raw little bit worried as i havent used chicken before I know this will get me shot down in flames as feeding BARF is like a religion to some of you lads but i dont feed mine ANY bone...my dogs tend to bolt their food and even when being closly supervised have had some nasty choking incidents...have also found feeding a lot of bone turns the dogs shit to the consistency of powder which is plain to see is sometimes uncomfortable for the dogs to pass...to me the bone is just filler sure the dogs will eat it but it has little nutritional value...the main benifit of feeding bone seems to me it keeps the dogs teeth clean...but so dose part cooked veg...many who feed BARF buy loads of chicken wings...well the first thing you often notice at the enterance to a fox earth is whole pheasent and pidgeon wings this tell me how highly they are prised as food also at times when living is good a fox will eat up into the body cavity of a rabbit eating the organs then trimming the meat off the carcass leaving the bones intact...a couple of times out in the fields i have had to pull the full lengh of a rabbits legs out of my old dogs throat as he trys to bolt it down if the bones where such good eating why would the old fox leave em laying around??...i'm not saying fox dont eat bones cos they do i'm just saying its not what they prefer to eat...its what they eat when theres nothing better...in this modern age i just dont see the point in feeding large amounts of bone...its just filler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 are there any bones that would cause a problem? Not if their raw mate. cheers mate just started feeding mine raw little bit worried as i havent used chicken before I know this will get me shot down in flames as feeding BARF is like a religion to some of you lads but i dont feed mine ANY bone...my dogs tend to bolt their food and even when being closly supervised have had some nasty choking incidents...have also found feeding a lot of bone turns the dogs shit to the consistency of powder which is plain to see is sometimes uncomfortable for the dogs to pass...to me the bone is just filler sure the dogs will eat it but it has little nutritional value...the main benifit of feeding bone seems to me it keeps the dogs teeth clean...but so dose part cooked veg...many who feed BARF buy loads of chicken wings...well the first thing you often notice at the enterance to a fox earth is whole pheasent and pidgeon wings this tell me how highly they are prised as food also at times when living is good a fox will eat up into the body cavity of a rabbit eating the organs then trimming the meat off the carcass leaving the bones intact...a couple of times out in the fields i have had to pull the full lengh of a rabbits legs out of my old dogs throat as he trys to bolt it down if the bones where such good eating why would the old fox leave em laying around??...i'm not saying fox dont eat bones cos they do i'm just saying its not what they prefer to eat...its what they eat when theres nothing better...in this modern age i just dont see the point in feeding large amounts of bone...its just filler Bones if fed raw are not just a filler...theres nutritional value and trace elements which are good for the dog....maybe foxes do eat up into the cavities of rabbits but I would suggest that this is because they have access to a good food supply and any left overs would soon be eaten if food was scarce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Raw meat and bones are fine, I also feed whole rabbit (fur, guts, head, the lot) every couple of weeks.........I just try and keep the diet as natural as possible. They love the whole rabbit and will devour the guts and head with relish. They are fit, healthy and in good condition..........cant ask for more than that!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Raw meat and bones are fine, I also feed whole rabbit (fur, guts, head, the lot) every couple of weeks.........I just try and keep the diet as natural as possible. They love the whole rabbit and will devour the guts and head with relish. everything tastes better with some relish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueCoyote 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 whats the dietary benifit of the relish? maybe i'm leaving out a key component in my dog's diet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Thje only problem with not feeding any bone is that the dog isn't getting enough calcium, and its not just growing pups that need calcium either. Could you not mince up whole rabbits and chicken carcases? We mince our rabbits skinned and gutted; then the bone is in tiny pieces and won't do any harm at all. Or if you haven't got a mincer, just lay them on a board and smash them up with an axe: our mincer is only small so we have to do that anyway to put the rabbits through. And before anyone says why not feed them whole, we mix the raw veg in with it so all the dogs get their veg: some won't eat it on its own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxo 537 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 are there any bones that would cause a problem? Not if their raw mate. cheers mate just started feeding mine raw little bit worried as i havent used chicken before I know this will get me shot down in flames as feeding BARF is like a religion to some of you lads but i dont feed mine ANY bone...my dogs tend to bolt their food and even when being closly supervised have had some nasty choking incidents...have also found feeding a lot of bone turns the dogs shit to the consistency of powder which is plain to see is sometimes uncomfortable for the dogs to pass...to me the bone is just filler sure the dogs will eat it but it has little nutritional value...the main benifit of feeding bone seems to me it keeps the dogs teeth clean...but so dose part cooked veg...many who feed BARF buy loads of chicken wings...well the first thing you often notice at the enterance to a fox earth is whole pheasent and pidgeon wings this tell me how highly they are prised as food also at times when living is good a fox will eat up into the body cavity of a rabbit eating the organs then trimming the meat off the carcass leaving the bones intact...a couple of times out in the fields i have had to pull the full lengh of a rabbits legs out of my old dogs throat as he trys to bolt it down if the bones where such good eating why would the old fox leave em laying around??...i'm not saying fox dont eat bones cos they do i'm just saying its not what they prefer to eat...its what they eat when theres nothing better...in this modern age i just dont see the point in feeding large amounts of bone...its just filler Bones if fed raw are not just a filler...theres nutritional value and trace elements which are good for the dog....maybe foxes do eat up into the cavities of rabbits but I would suggest that this is because they have access to a good food supply and any left overs would soon be eaten if food was scarce. Theres very little of any value to your dog in bones other than calcium, i have fed totally raw for the past few years and have now gone back to a quality kibble. Choking episodes with greedy dogs, constipation and occasional severe diarrhea and a dog that just could not keep weight on in winter persuaded me that sometimes raw is NOT best, at least for my dogs. A link for the nutritional value (or lack of it) in feeding bones http://www.thepetcenter.com/xra/bonecomp.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Choking episodes with greedy dogs, constipation and occasional severe diarrhea and a dog that just could not keep weight on in winter Trouble is I had those symptoms with kibble before I switched to raw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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