Simoman 110 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm talking about the stock market Mark...I haven't been in England for a while so I don't know what you lot are going through. Well I'm only 34 Rich but this is the worst I've known it, have you are spare room in Oz for two adults, two kids and three dogs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stabs 3 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm talking about the stock market Mark...I haven't been in England for a while so I don't know what you lot are going through. Well I'm only 34 Rich but this is the worst I've known it, have you are spare room in Oz for two adults, two kids and three dogs? I've got a nice kennel and run Si....got a young un' on the way myself so room is at a premium We get a bit of the UK news over here and they've shown the trucks on the streets again recently. The new Labor govt here is going through an argument with the unions here over rasing the minimum wage for the poorest paid workers....and today they've just announced a 19% (yes that's 19%) pay rise for their own top salary civil servants taking them to almost $500,000 p.a......nice to see they've got their priorities right eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm talking about the stock market Mark...I haven't been in England for a while so I don't know what you lot are going through. Well I'm only 34 Rich but this is the worst I've known it, have you are spare room in Oz for two adults, two kids and three dogs? I've got a nice kennel and run Si....got a young un' on the way myself so room is at a premium We get a bit of the UK news over here and they've shown the trucks on the streets again recently. The new Labor govt here is going through an argument with the unions here over rasing the minimum wage for the poorest paid workers....and today they've just announced a 19% (yes that's 19%) pay rise for their own top salary civil servants taking them to almost $500,000 p.a......nice to see they've got their priorities right eh? Plenty of time before stabs junior arrives, I import my caravan and set up camp Looks like politicians are the same worldwide, no concept of the "man in the street". All to quick to pass laws and legislation and then fail to adhere to them themselves. Only 19%, they showed some restraint then This governemnt are amazing, the sooner there out the better only I can't see anyone else actually doing what they are elected for and looking after the country and its citizens................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stabs 3 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 I agree Si....but what to do? Labour are dead and buried in the UK but what about the Conservatives? Is their approach what the country needs now? As I said before, i think it's a cyclical thing so we'll come out of it at some point. Not so long ago there was effectively a two party system in UK, with the Liberals and Tories changing places as the party of power, taking their turns in due course. "New" Unionism came along in the 1870's and gave birth to the fledgling Labour Party. Labour benefitted from a polarisation of opinion and the old two party system was smashed, never to survive and Labour replaced the ailing Liberals. Is the time right for another shift of power? I saw Labour came fifth in Boris Johnson's old seat....you never know....people may just want a party that actually stands for something rather than creating policies through osmosis and surveys, forever chasing public opinion until they are reactionary rather than proactive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 I agree Si....but what to do? Labour are dead and buried in the UK but what about the Conservatives? Is their approach what the country needs now? As I said before, i think it's a cyclical thing so we'll come out of it at some point. Not so long ago there was effectively a two party system in UK, with the Liberals and Tories changing places as the party of power, taking their turns in due course. "New" Unionism came along in the 1870's and gave birth to the fledgling Labour Party. Labour benefitted from a polarisation of opinion and the old two party system was smashed, never to survive and Labour replaced the ailing Liberals. Is the time right for another shift of power? I saw Labour came fifth in Boris Johnson's old seat....you never know....people may just want a party that actually stands for something rather than creating policies through osmosis and surveys, forever chasing public opinion until they are reactionary rather than proactive. A fair more informed and educated reply than I could type The long and short of it is I think we are screwed, I'm off work today and have been shopping (prices up), filled up with diesel (£85 which will last 5 days ) and ordered heating oil which has risen over 20p per litre since January. We and my wife don't earn bad wages but Jeez its getting ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stabs 3 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 And there's me thinking it was a good idea to buy a V8 last year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Champ606 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 thats what happens when you put a scot incharge of a superpower, he did a shit job as chancellor and now he's doing even worse! never mind the fact his head looks like a my ballbag on a cold morning Here Here Speed lamper! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Groverdog 0 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 It is a big worry for ordinary working folk. Last winter was bad enough trying to keep house warm with the prices of oil rising but this winter we have to replace oil boiler with old raeburn and heat house soley on solid fuel (very lucky in getting wood) as there is no way we can afford oil just now. And its a case if i use Disco i have to make sure i get everything in one trip to minimse diesel costs. Feeding the small amount of livestock we have is causing a headache with feed prices well up too. People i feel really sorry for are the elderly who already struggle on a cr*p pension. No idea what the answer is as im no economist just know that personally we will have to batten down hatches and penny pinch till it hopefully blows over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gaz100604 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 thats what happens when you put a scot incharge of a superpower, he did a shit job as chancellor and now he's doing even worse! never mind the fact his head looks like a my ballbag on a cold morning Here Here Speed lamper! why is brown in power i dont remember anyone electing that robbing prick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,521 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 As you said Grover,its the pensioners who suffer,worked hard all their lives,paid their taxes,some of them had loved ones who gave their lives for this country,but they are classed as expendables mate,as are we all,f**k labour right off next election Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trappa 518 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) It could be worse. In zimbabwe they have a president that no-one likes and was never voted in!!!....................oh wait, so have we Edited July 8, 2008 by trappa Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest greengrass123 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 2100 redundancies announced today in the building trade alone, brown has really sold this country down the river. Second thoughts though, ill rephrase that brown has given this country away they havent got the f*****g brains to sell it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest markbrick1 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 look anyone who thinks this is going to be a short thing wake up,its going to hit and hit hard,iam ok but i have lost 2 houses in the last recession and feel for genuine people,not the money grabbers of this last boom,genuine working familys who have been told there jobs are ok and you cant loose in bricks and mortar well you will and hard unless youre house is worth over the million with income but people who bought a house in the last 2 yrs really be aware as YOU will see a drop in prices from 5 to 40 % Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fish 148 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 It could be worse. In zimbabwe they have a president that no-one likes and was never voted in!!!....................oh wait, so have we love it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Irish Lurcher 1,013 Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Welcome on board, we too have a fat b*****d running our country that was not voted in Due to the recession here in Ireland my weekly income had dropped by 15% I am self employed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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