Mares tail

[Bendigo 2,301]

Neighbours garden is full of mares tail and it's now coming up in my raised beds. I'm digging out as much as possible.....is it worth me digging out these roots or am I pisssing in the wind here 

 

[Bendigo 2,301]

Just thought a serious post would make a change from wanking off dogs

[Chid 6,880]

If you don't gets all the roots out they'll just regrow from where there broke into a new plant .

And it's hard to get rid of with weed killer , you need to almost beet the plant to damage the stems before you weedkiller so it absords the weedkiller 

[Bendigo 2,301]

15 minutes ago, Chid said:

If you don't gets all the roots out they'll just regrow from where there broke into a new plant .

And it's hard to get rid of with weed killer , you need to almost beet the plant to damage the stems before you weedkiller so it absords the weedkiller 

I spray each shoot with weed killer as it pops up....that kills it but another one will pop up just as quick.....it's like playing whack a mole as it's clearly not killing the roots. 

[WILF 52,937]

1 hour ago, Chid said:

If you don't gets all the roots out they'll just regrow from where there broke into a new plant .

And it's hard to get rid of with weed killer , you need to almost beet the plant to damage the stems before you weedkiller so it absords the weedkiller 

 

52 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

I spray each shoot with weed killer as it pops up....that kills it but another one will pop up just as quick.....it's like playing whack a mole as it's clearly not killing the roots. 

Not trying to be a smart arse, but can I ask lads, why are you spraying weed killer on ground where you are growing your own food ? 
surely that completely defeats one of the main objects of growing your own food ? 

[Arry 26,942]

SBK is recommended mate.

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[chartpolski 29,859]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

Not trying to be a smart arse, but can I ask lads, why are you spraying weed killer on ground where you are growing your own food ? 
surely that completely defeats one of the main objects of growing your own food ? 

Most commercial weed killer degrades quickly. It will kill existing weeds but not new weeds or new plants.

I use a type that is safe after 6 hours as I have poultry and dogs on my allotments.

Cheers.

[WILF 52,937]

10 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Most commercial weed killer degrades quickly. It will kill existing weeds but not new weeds or new plants.

I use a type that is safe after 6 hours as I have poultry and dogs on my allotments.

Cheers.

Its the bit you can’t see on weed killers that does the damage, it’s harmful to all the microbes that make soil work properly…..hence why farmers have to keep using chemical fertiliser because the soil is all dead !  

Also, a quick google on SBK (as I just did) will tell you not to replant for 6 weeks ! 

Each to their own like, I just wondered why ?

I’ve read pretty extensively on the subject and I wouldn’t put a weed killer near my place and that’s just for grazing animals….its a pure disaster on every level mate. 
 

By the way, I’m not trying to start a row, as I say it’s something I have studied a little bit so I have an interest in the subject.

Edited 10 hours ago by WILF

[chartpolski 29,859]

14 minutes ago, WILF said:

Its the bit you can’t see on weed killers that does the damage, it’s harmful to all the microbes that make soil work properly…..hence why farmers have to keep using chemical fertiliser because the soil is all dead !  

Also, a quick google on SBK (as I just did) will tell you not to replant for 6 weeks ! 

Each to their own like, I just wondered why ?

I’ve read pretty extensively on the subject and I wouldn’t put a weed killer near my place and that’s just for grazing animals….its a pure disaster on every level mate. 
 

By the way, I’m not trying to start a row, as I say it’s something I have studied a little bit so I have an interest in the subject.

I’m just going by my experience, I’ll spray weeds , when they die , I turn the ground over and plant, and usually have great results with my veg.

Thing is, I spray the weeds leaves, not the soil. The weed killer is ingested by the leaves, much like foliar fertiliser spraying and taken to the roots.

Of course there will be some over spray that goes on to the soil, but presumably not enough to worry about.

Cheers.

[WILF 52,937]

7 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I’m just going by my experience, I’ll spray weeds , when they die , I turn the ground over and plant, and usually have great results with my veg.

Thing is, I spray the weeds leaves, not the soil. The weed killer is ingested by the leaves, much like foliar fertiliser spraying and taken to the roots.

Of course there will be some over spray that goes on to the soil, but presumably not enough to worry about.

Cheers.

There’s a brilliant book that may interest you mate called “Dirt to Soil” by Gabe Brown, it’s a real eye opener.

Indeed a friend of mine who used to be on here has gone all over the world studying regenerative farming and now runs a successful consultancy on the subject…..weed killers are a big part of that whole subject because of the damage they do. 

[WILF 52,937]

Most things can be put down to soil health/structure/geographic location and associated soils/climate……it’s wether you want to quick fix that means you have to forever use the quick fix that also happens to be very bad for you or the long fix that work with nature whilst at the same time nourishing you and the environment.

It really is as simple as that in many cases.

[Bosun11 537]

My garden 'was' overun with Mares Tail, tried just about everything, nothing really worked, bar snapping it off as soon as it comes through. Stunting it's growth.

Absolute nightmare at first, but I eventually got on top of it, after a couple of years. The key is not to let it get you down, because it can do..!

Just keep plucking it out, as soon as you see it. 

[Bendigo 2,301]

47 minutes ago, WILF said:

Most things can be put down to soil health/structure/geographic location and associated soils/climate……it’s wether you want to quick fix that means you have to forever use the quick fix that also happens to be very bad for you or the long fix that work with nature whilst at the same time nourishing you and the environment.

It really is as simple as that in many cases.

What would you do with mares tail?

 

[Bendigo 2,301]

40 minutes ago, Bosun11 said:

My garden 'was' overun with Mares Tail, tried just about everything, nothing really worked, bar snapping it off as soon as it comes through. Stunting it's growth.

Absolute nightmare at first, but I eventually got on top of it, after a couple of years. The key is not to let it get you down, because it can do..!

Just keep plucking it out, as soon as you see it. 

I do that but next door is covered so don't think I'll stop it easily 

[WILF 52,937]

5 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

What would you do with mares tail?

 

Well, I just did a quick Google and it says it’s a combination of destroying its ability to photosynthesise, don’t pull the roots because they break up and grow new plants and adjust the Ph of your soil.

Also, plenty of organic matter and make sure your soils isn’t compacted.

It’s a long term project.

All from Google as I didn’t have the first clue myself but the information is out there if you want to do this stuff chemical free mate.