Denton and Gorton

[chartpolski 29,518]

3 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

From what im told this is an area that has never been won by a right wing party at any point in history so cant be a surprise if its always been a Labour area.....but what could be seen as surprising or should at least be noticed is that the " vote splitting " has worked out great for the left just so long as they have gone further left than the original party !......hopefully this will wake up a few Reform supporters to Farage's nonsense tactics regards vote splitting.

Again , how did Reform split the vote ? They didn’t, as I said in my previous post.

Cheers.

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20 minutes ago, WILF said:

The choice is Tory or Tory mate, and the people that vote for them ain’t that bothered which version of Tory they get (jmho of course) 

What there wasnt was a voice for white British people, the people who’s ancestors built that city…..but there was a voice for all the 3rd work scum and their enablers !

And, the results back that up.

I absolutely get that mate. However all that aside surely to fcuk reform is a better result than the greens.  Where that leads us remains to be seen but you should play the best hand available to you at the time whilst looking to the future. Or, perhaps the final outcome is inevitable and the sooner it happens then the sooner we can start afresh.

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11 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Again , how did Reform split the vote ? They didn’t, as I said in my previous post.

Cheers.

But....but....but....white nationalism needed innit 

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i hope labour will now see that these immigrants are no longer fit for purpose

[gnasher16 31,866]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

I think Reform are splitting the vote because they are offering conservative or conservative…..so half the people vote for the old Tory’s and half the people vote for the new Tory’s……this is shown pretty clear in these by election results and in almost every election result.

What we don’t have is anything approaching nationalist, unashamedly nationalist !…..we need it. 

Totally agree....for me Farage has totally messed up the " right wing " mindset by promising Nationalism but delivering some watered down version of Patriotism that isnt even Patriotic !.....theres thousands of people out there that sadly just dont have that final step in them to say " f**k it " and go all out Nationalism.....they want to,but they just dont have it in them either out of some misguided loyalty to what they thought was " right wing " Reform,or they just dont want to admit they backed the wrong horse in the first place......its so sad in my opinion but again,you can lead a horse to water........

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15 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Again , how did Reform split the vote ? They didn’t, as I said in my previous post.

Cheers.

By portraying themselves as a right wing party when it turns out they're not.

[gnasher16 31,866]

11 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

But....but....but....white nationalism needed innit 

.......and you are the Heritage & Destiny geezer are you not ?

Cringeworthy as f**k some of you people......f****n embarrassing !

[WILF 52,488]

19 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

But....but....but....white nationalism needed innit 

Come on mate, you’re better than that……

 

[WILF 52,488]

24 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Totally agree....for me Farage has totally messed up the " right wing " mindset by promising Nationalism but delivering some watered down version of Patriotism that isnt even Patriotic !.....theres thousands of people out there that sadly just dont have that final step in them to say " f**k it " and go all out Nationalism.....they want to,but they just dont have it in them either out of some misguided loyalty to what they thought was " right wing " Reform,or they just dont want to admit they backed the wrong horse in the first place......its so sad in my opinion but again,you can lead a horse to water........

We have 3 years until a GE, it’s not embarrassing to say you bought one thing but it turned out to be another…..I have !

It’s not like it’s never happened before is it, we should be well used to getting  f****d over by now…..just wipe our mouth and find something that we think better fits to back.

Playing “let’s pretend” is a zero sum game.

I think what is clear is that more of the same isn’t the safe ground anymore, they are all crying about “people voting on sectarian grounds” (they mean racial !) , well, it worked didn’t it……so if that’s the game we are playing we better get with the programme and play it ! 
 

I’ll also add, many agree with the logic of “import the 3rd world, get the 3rd world” but it’s strange how they don’t apply the same Logic to Reform ?, “Import the Tory’s, get the Tory’s “ 

So which is true ?

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1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

How are Reform splitting the vote ?

The Tories lost their deposit, getting only around 1 1/2% of the votes . Even if every Tory voter had voted Reform, it still wouldn’t have been enough. Advance were absolutely dismal, getting only around 150 votes.

Reform doubled their vote from the 2024 election, meaning, in my mind, they United the right vote.

They were beaten because Gorton is 46% Muslim and Denton is 6% Muslim  and they voted as a block with other left wing Gaza supporters .

No, Reform didn’t split the vote, they were beaten by a left wing party in a constituency that has voted left for over 100 years, just this time they voted for a real left wing party.

Cheers.

 

Fair……however, turnout was only 47% so obviously there is a whole group of people who are totally uninspired.

Now that either because they don’t care or because there isn’t anyone to inspire them…..I’m not pointing all the fingers at Reform here because I have said for years the people who betrayed Britain the most were white British people !

And for a very long time I’ve been of the opinion that, like Hitler said in the final days of the battle of Berlin, if my own people don’t want to fight to live then they deserve to die out ! 
 

But, I still think there is an untapped resource if somebody has the courage to move the conversation there….worrying yourself sick about the blue rinse brigade who got us in this shit in the first place is looking at the wrong market maybe ?

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16 minutes ago, WILF said:

Fair……however, turnout was only 47% so obviously there is a whole group of people who are totally uninspired.

Now that either because they don’t care or because there isn’t anyone to inspire them…..I’m not pointing all the fingers at Reform here because I have said for years the people who betrayed Britain the most were white British people !

And for a very long time I’ve been of the opinion that, like Hitler said in the final days of the battle of Berlin, if my own people don’t want to fight to live then they deserve to die out ! 
 

But, I still think there is an untapped resource if somebody has the courage to move the conversation there….worrying yourself sick about the blue rinse brigade who got us in this shit in the first place is looking at the wrong market maybe ?

So what are you offering as an alternative?? 

We agree on most things but this one point, your hoping that some genius leader will arrive (backed up by 300 equally capable MPs, and 2000 equally capable local councillors) and inspire people with talk about white nationalism and the enemy that is the none whites. 

Your living in a dream world 

[WILF 52,488]

3 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

So what are you offering as an alternative?? 

We agree on most things but this one point, your hoping that some genius leader will arrive (backed up by 300 equally capable MPs, and 2000 equally capable local councillors) and inspire people with talk about white nationalism and the enemy that is the none whites. 

Your living in a dream world 

I may be living in a dream world mate, but one thing won and one thing lost….tell me which one lost ? 
 

And as for genius leader, it don’t take a genius to see where the problems are in that country !…..it just takes the courage to say it out loud. 

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1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

.......and you are the Heritage & Destiny geezer are you not ?

Cringeworthy as f**k some of you people......f****n embarrassing !

Yes I am !!! I've spent hours delivering leaflets for the editor of h + d when he stood for the England first party, and the BNP etc.

I have also read every issue of h + d and every article documents the political right fighting amongst themselves. 

It didn't work pal!!!  That's why we are in this fckin mess, that's what's embarrassing

Like with wilf....in a pub we would agree 100% and have some cracking chats on race and identity......but the people of the UK aren't buying it!

[Bendigo 2,109]

7 minutes ago, WILF said:

I may be living in a dream world mate, but one thing won and one thing lost….tell me which one lost ? 
 

And as for genius leader, it don’t take a genius to see where the problems are in that country !…..it just takes the courage to say it out loud. 

We have been screaming it for years! That's why I can't stand for reform! I , like you, and our opinions would be politically toxic.