WILF 53,243 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Just now, chartpolski said: Matt Goodwin ? Cheers. What did he say……I seen him at a couple of hustings for that election and he said nothing that wasn’t careful and mainstream. I must have missed anything unapologetically nationalist mate, so what did he say if you don’t mind me asking chief ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddyluke 885 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: The Greens think the Muslim vote will get them into power……and the Muslims think the Greens will get THEM into power. Exactly what Farage has been saying . Cheers. George Galloway thought he was home and dry when he won the Rochdale by-election when had the backing of the muslims but it didn't last long and gone by the next general election Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 30,102 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, WILF said: What did he say……I seen him at a couple of hustings for that election and he said nothing that wasn’t careful and mainstream. I must have missed anything unapologetically nationalist mate, so what did he say if you don’t mind me asking chief ? He’s been accused of being a white supremecist, Islamophobia, etc. Watch his show on GBNews, he is by far the farthest “right” in Reform. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 53,243 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, chartpolski said: He’s been accused of being a white supremecist, Islamophobia, etc. Watch his show on GBNews, he is by far the farthest “right” in Reform. Cheers. You don’t need to do much to get accused of that mate, what did he actually “say” ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 30,102 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 (edited) 10 minutes ago, WILF said: You don’t need to do much to get accused of that mate, what did he actually “say” ? I’m not going to trawl through his comments, just watch him on GBNews, he has a regular show and appears as a guest on other shows. The green’s specifically targeted him for his anti immigration views and even, extraordinarily, accused him of being complicit in the Manchester Arena bombing ! His GBNews show is probably available on YouTube This is just one quote of his you surely agree with ? Cheers. Edited March 7 by chartpolski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 53,243 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 9 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I’m not going to trawl through his comments, just watch him on GBNews, he has a regular show and appears as a guest on other shows. The green’s specifically targeted him for his anti immigration views and even, extraordinarily, accused him of being complicit in the Manchester Arena bombing ! His GBNews show is probably available on YouTube This is just one quote of his you surely agree with ? Cheers. I’ve watched him in various debates over the years, in debate his oratory skills are great and the positions he takes we would all agree with……but if you watch the hustings, he has obviously been rigorously briefed by the party and looks afraid to say the wrong thing…..it was hollow mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 30,102 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, WILF said: I’ve watched him in various debates over the years, in debate his oratory skills are great and the positions he takes we would all agree with……but if you watch the hustings, he has obviously been rigorously briefed by the party and looks afraid to say the wrong thing…..it was hollow mate. As you know, I respect your views and opinions and agree with the majority of them, but today you appear to be directing invective and rhetoric solely at Farage and Reform, a bit unfair especially when Starmer is behaving like a traitor and the Labour Party as 5th columnists Anyhow, it gets my debating juices flowing Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,922 Posted March 7 Author Report Share Posted March 7 Just reading the 519 Restore policies, dont agree with 502 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,898 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, WILF said: f**k the middle ground voters, do you not think Lowe has broken the glass wall about what can be said out loud now ?……he is bringing a fairly strong version of proper nationalism into the mainstream conversation. We all know what he says is bang on the money, let one person honestly tell me it isn’t ? We need to start encouraging those around us to be as unafraid and unapologetic as that and if they aren’t then we don’t need them anyway…..they are the minds, the “biddys” as a lad here calls them, that got us in this shit in the first place. Lowe has in the last 3 weeks shifted every, single political party including Reform more in our direction…..3 weeks !! Fact Who could ever have imagined a Paki Labour Home Secretary talking about paying people to go home 6 weeks ago ? They know this dude is onto something and they are scared. I said a few weeks ago on here if Lowe and Restore do nothing else they will force Reform further right than they really wanted to go. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MH1 1,971 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 9 minutes ago, Bakerboy said: Just reading the 519 Restore policies, dont agree with 502 512 seems a bit harsh as well, unless the owners are into that sort of thing 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,922 Posted March 7 Author Report Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, MH1 said: 512 seems a bit harsh as well, unless the owners are into that sort of thing Aye they could have worded it a bit better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,898 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, WILF said: I’d argue we got our head round it just fine and it hasn’t worked. We tried the moderate, sensible approach with various governments, many will have voted Boris when UKIP stepped aside and done broadly similar in previous decades….and each time, we got f****d ! Whats the point in doing that anymore ? The maths are simple, if we get behind something honest in enough numbers then it wins….if it don’t win, then we are no worse off. A possibly worse scenario is to kid ourselves we won, take our eyes off the ball for 5 years and be in an even worse position when we realise we should have just done the honest thing in the first place. I love the way some of you lads have come full circle i remember years ago you telling me Nationalism could never work Wilf....how lads like Griffin were dead and we all had to put a shirt and tie on and be a lot more sensible about our approach Everything Nationalism was saying then has come true,the knuckle draggers were right all along.....if it wasnt so tragic it would be f****n hilarious. Edited March 7 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,898 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 (edited) On 27/02/2026 at 12:52, chartpolski said: Reform were the only “right of centre “ party on the ballot. I don’t class the Tories as right of centre , but they only got 1 1/2% of the vote. I’m assuming Tory voters moved en masse to Reform, Advance got less votes than the Raving Loony Party, so I’m guessing any right wing voter who was thinking of voting for Habibs party had second thoughts and voted Reform. Reform doubled their vote from 18 months ago. So, far from splitting the right vote, they actually United it. I understand you hate Farage and Reform, but what was the alternative ? Id rather vote for a party that some think is only vaguely “Right” than not vote at all. Im actually the same mindset as you and Wilf and would rather have a true right wing , patriotic, national party, but there wasn’t one available yesterday, so I’ll stick by the old maxim of “attainable better is preferable to unattainable perfect”, and vote for Reform until a true alternative comes along. Cheers. Honestly....i just dont understand what it is you folk see in Reform that is " right " in anything other than a made up " media description "......in terms of real basic human inquisitiveness does it not make you curious as to why the media have ploughed this whole " right wing " description on Farage and Reform yet are keeping Lowe and Restore hushed away and are silent on them ? My guess is that they want to keep society away from true " right wing " policies and keep you's all focused on this made up version of " right wing "......hence folk like me describing Farage/Reform as nothing more than controlled opposition/establishment. Edited March 7 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,898 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 (edited) On 27/02/2026 at 12:37, Bendigo said: Yes I am !!! I've spent hours delivering leaflets for the editor of h + d when he stood for the England first party, and the BNP etc. I have also read every issue of h + d and every article documents the political right fighting amongst themselves. It didn't work pal!!! That's why we are in this fckin mess, that's what's embarrassing Like with wilf....in a pub we would agree 100% and have some cracking chats on race and identity......but the people of the UK aren't buying it! And there we have it.....somebody who once booked themself as " right wing " telling someone else who is right wing,that we should compromise our morals and values because it " didnt work " ffs !!........and you cant see the pattern in following a man like Farage once claiming to be " right wing " but now appealing to the Muslim vote ffs ! For educated wordly people like some of you's........you are very easily led !! Without wishing to offend anyone....its weak,pathetic and actually deserves nothing whatsoever in terms of change. Edited March 7 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,898 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 (edited) On 27/02/2026 at 11:23, WILF said: We have 3 years until a GE, it’s not embarrassing to say you bought one thing but it turned out to be another…..I have ! Its what strength of character does mate.....honest values go a long way some of us have never budged an inch on these things over the years and thats because we have truly always believed in what we was saying. We was always taught that admitting wrong is how growth takes place ?....well in mate good for you. Edited March 7 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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