Reform ?

[WILF 51,719]

With yet more of the same people that betrayed the country welcomed into Reform this week let me ask this:

What is Reform without Nigel Farage ?……. Would you vote for these people if he wasn’t t there ? 
 

As far as I can see, if it wasn’t for Farage it would be all the same people, all the same attitudes, all the same box tick ethnics and Muslims manoeuvring themselves into positions of power that have got the country into this catastrophe?

Who in their right mind would vote for those people if Farage wasn’t there ?

Im sure there are a few fee paying members of Reform on here, lads I have to tell you, your party is getting hijacked out from under you ! 

[Bendigo 1,496]

[Bendigo 1,496]

I'm standing for the people's front of Lancashire against darkies party. 

 

[WILF 51,719]

4 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

Fair, but would you vote for these people if Farage wasn’t there ? 
 

Edited to add: I’m actually a massive fan of cutting off your nose to spite your face, nobody ever expects it and it always turns out alright in the end.

Edited yesterday at 11:55 by WILF

[Bendigo 1,496]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

Fair, but would you vote for these people if Farage wasn’t there ? 

Probably not. But without farage there wouldn't be anything there to vote for. 

As said before I'll always support the best option at the time. If you want to stand for the NF in my area id consider voting for you. 

[WILF 51,719]

1 minute ago, Bendigo said:

Probably not. But without farage there wouldn't be anything there to vote for. 

As said before I'll always support the best option at the time. If you want to stand for the NF in my area id consider voting for you. 

So what’s stopping you voting for them now ? 
My point is mate, well….you've made it for me, without Farage this isn’t change.

[WILF 51,719]

Reform are still a good way off any election, members still have the power to steer it back in the right direction if they stop telling themselves lies…..nobody wants to see something better more than me, but you won’t get it by voting for all the same people that betrayed us in the first place….thats a no brainer imho

Reform are relying on your votes and your vocal support, lend it, don’t give it away blindly…..once these charlatans who sold us down the river are back in positions of power it will be business as usual and that’s another few decades of your life down the toilet.

[Lenmcharristar 10,415]

He will have the backing of Trump, and again its only a step in the right direction, once that momentum takes hold then other with the same views will get involved. Hopefully

[TRUEBRIT66 2,300]

44 minutes ago, WILF said:

With yet more of the same people that betrayed the country welcomed into Reform this week let me ask this:

What is Reform without Nigel Farage ?……. Would you vote for these people if he wasn’t t there ? 
 

As far as I can see, if it wasn’t for Farage it would be all the same people, all the same attitudes, all the same box tick ethnics and Muslims manoeuvring themselves into positions of power that have got the country into this catastrophe?

Who in their right mind would vote for those people if Farage wasn’t there ?

Im sure there are a few fee paying members of Reform on here, lads I have to tell you, your party is getting hijacked out from under you ! 

I'm a paid up member of Advance UK and like Nick Tenconi from UKIP but the likely hood of any of those parties having a candidate in the May elections where I live is is zero and in all honesty a vote for them would be wasted. I just want shot of Labour and Reform are looking like the only party who can do that and whether we like it or not as you say, Reform is Nigel Farage.

I do like the way a number of the Reform councillors are coming across on interviews, Laila Cunnigham, Jaymey McGivor and Darren Grimes are just a few and I think would make good MP's all had no political background previously. You also have people like Matt Goodwin and Konstantin Kisin who could also transition and don't rule out a few other people in the media that I can see dabbling their feet as well, there are some very intelligent and clued up podcasters out there as silly as that sounds.    

With regards them accepting other politicians I don't mind that as they have also said if they get into power the government will consist ordinary working people in a way Trump has built his government. They've already got Vannesa Frake in for prison Tsar and Colin Sutton for Police and crime advisor both have massive experience in their fields. I would like to see Katherine Birbalsingh as education advisor and a ex nurse in a health minister advisor, ex military in defence Christ even someone like Martin Lewis or Steve Landsdown as advisor to The Chancellor of the Exchequer couldn't do a worse job then Rachel from accounts.

I do however think there is a very fine line between them looking like a new party or a recycled Tory party and they need to watch out for that.        

[mackem 30,857]

Reform are looking more and more like Conservatives Redux,rats jumping a sinking ship and moving to one that's more buoyant is not a good look,they are still rats (professional politicians),a new broom should sweep clean,Farage shouldn't have accepted them.

[TRUEBRIT66 2,300]

10 minutes ago, mackem said:

Reform are looking more and more like Conservatives Redux,rats jumping a sinking ship and moving to one that's more buoyant is not a good look,they are still rats (professional politicians),a new broom should sweep clean,Farage shouldn't have accepted them.

The MSM are making a great deal out of every Tory defector but there are an awful lot of councillors that have come from nowhere. Our local Reform candidate in the last election had no political background and came 2nd, and just up the road from me the Reform candidate for the council elections has just been announced. He is just a begruntled businessman, he gets no press coverage as it don't suit the political agenda and Im pretty sure if he was an ex tory we would all know about it. 

I'm starting to think the MSM have jumped on to this because its another stick to beat them with and raises doubts amongst Reform voters who are basing their vote on just wanting change?        

[mackem 30,857]

3 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Tory defector  

It would be interesting to know the exact number of professional politicians who have jumped ship.

[mackay 3,726]

You could argue people don't vote for reform because of Farage. Ukip voters etc.  Me?, myself?, I'd vote for reform if a monkey was the leader. A quick back at you, would more folks vote for reform if either Rupert Lowe or Ben Habib were leader?. I personally think a more hard line approach is needed and reform under Farage are shying away from it.  A real right wing party is what's needed in this country now and we shouldn't be afraid to have one. In the meantime I'll vote reform and Farage in the hope that when they get in and have the numbers they become more right wing inclined.

[TRUEBRIT66 2,300]

46 minutes ago, mackem said:

It would be interesting to know the exact number of professional politicians who have jumped ship.

If this is anything to go by just 14 which in the big scheme of things aren't a great deal when they are predicted to win between 271 and 357 seats  Full list of all the major former Conservative Party members who have joined Reform | LBC

[WILF 51,719]

4 hours ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

If this is anything to go by just 14 which in the big scheme of things aren't a great deal when they are predicted to win between 271 and 357 seats  Full list of all the major former Conservative Party members who have joined Reform | LBC

Round my old way it’s been a few ex Tory councillors who have been in more party’s than a set of f***ing birthday candles, always whichever party was doing best at the time…..I know these people, as in they lived in my community, they ate in the same cafes, they went to the same local events……

These people are total f***ing slime balls to the core……absolute horrible shit c**ts !

Theres been way more than 14 if you include the foot soldiers in councils across the country…..these ain’t just ordinary citizens who just voted how they thought was right at the time, these are the people who imposed government policy on people at the local level.

Traitors to a man !