TOMO 29,898 Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 16 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said: Darts Yeh they didn't ban P.E.D's.....but they did ban fags and beer...lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,479 Posted December 12 Report Share Posted December 12 18 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Mmhhhhh we’ll never know will we. id always say that Fedor is the best purely as he’s my personal favourite , but being honest and not being weight blind , Mighty Mouse is a hell of a shout Mighty Mouse,GSP gotta be up there,Kabib and Islam is starting to look like he could soon be in the mix.Jones can never be in the conversation when hes been popped twice for juicing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 17,269 Posted Thursday at 15:24 Report Share Posted Thursday at 15:24 On 12/12/2025 at 18:55, downsouth said: Mighty Mouse,GSP gotta be up there,Kabib and Islam is starting to look like he could soon be in the mix.Jones can never be in the conversation when hes been popped twice for juicing. Khabib? Just drained his self to.fight in lower weights terrible striker Jones is a complete all.around fighter mate best to do it by a mile. Gsp I enjoyed his run great time to.watch the ufc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 29,898 Posted Thursday at 16:26 Report Share Posted Thursday at 16:26 On 12/12/2025 at 18:55, downsouth said: Mighty Mouse,GSP gotta be up there,Kabib and Islam is starting to look like he could soon be in the mix.Jones can never be in the conversation when hes been popped twice for juicing. Honestly don't see the problem with using PED...so many are at it to some degree... And there's so many other compounds not banned by Wader...that can give an edge... The pharmacy list of PED is massive now and not just confined to steroids....also drug testing doesn't really highlight testosterone...blood testing is the thing to highlight that....you could be on a low dose TRT protocol and have test levels in the normal range...but still gain benefits from it...but pass a drug test.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,479 Posted Thursday at 18:08 Report Share Posted Thursday at 18:08 2 hours ago, mC HULL said: Khabib? Just drained his self to.fight in lower weights terrible striker Jones is a complete all.around fighter mate best to do it by a mile. Gsp I enjoyed his run great time to.watch the ufc Pretty much every fighter drains themselves down to fight in the lowest weight class possible same as in boxing and to say he was terrible I'd ridiculouse.Why didn't the likes of Mcgregor just box his head of or chop his legs to bits then? If Jones was clean I wouldn't argue that but hes been caught more than once so for me that just excludes him from the conversation. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 8,479 Posted Thursday at 18:14 Report Share Posted Thursday at 18:14 1 hour ago, TOMO said: Honestly don't see the problem with using PED...so many are at it to some degree... And there's so many other compounds not banned by Wader...that can give an edge... The pharmacy list of PED is massive now and not just confined to steroids....also drug testing doesn't really highlight testosterone...blood testing is the thing to highlight that....you could be on a low dose TRT protocol and have test levels in the normal range...but still gain benefits from it...but pass a drug test.... If everyone was using them that would be fine .All on an equal playing field.But when some are using and and one point using ridiculous amounts and then fighting against clean fighters then its an unfair advantage.Thats why the trt exemptions were scrapped,Because fighters were using it as a way to take the piss.You only have to look at the change in Vetor when he couldn't juice up under the guise of needing try because he apparently had low test levels in his 30s.He never fought even remotely the same again and didn't even look like the same person. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 17,269 Posted Thursday at 18:16 Report Share Posted Thursday at 18:16 5 minutes ago, downsouth said: Pretty much every fighter drains themselves down to fight in the lowest weight class possible same as in boxing and to say he was terrible I'd ridiculouse.Why didn't the likes of Mcgregor just box his head of or chop his legs to bits then? If Jones was clean I wouldn't argue that but hes been caught more than once so for me that just excludes him from the conversation. Good post You can't knock khabibs wrestling and his mentality was second to.none He did get picked off legs kicked chopped gaethe was nearly there aye but again khabibs mentality won him the fight They all juice mate hes not bad for it compared to.some Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 29,898 Posted Thursday at 18:21 Report Share Posted Thursday at 18:21 That cutting business needs stopping...weigh in before getting in the ring.... I know what your all going to say....but every fighter knows how heavy they are....they should all fight at the weight they are....not some imaginary weight they water cut down to 24 hours earlier 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,621 Posted Friday at 17:31 Report Share Posted Friday at 17:31 23 hours ago, downsouth said: If everyone was using them that would be fine .All on an equal playing field.But when some are using and and one point using ridiculous amounts and then fighting against clean fighters then its an unfair advantage.Thats why the trt exemptions were scrapped,Because fighters were using it as a way to take the piss.You only have to look at the change in Vetor when he couldn't juice up under the guise of needing try because he apparently had low test levels in his 30s.He never fought even remotely the same again and didn't even look like the same person. The only real way to have an equal playing field in top level sport is with the Biological Passport which i think will come into operation over the coming years.....its basically a signature for every elite level sportsman that will trigger if they deviate too far away from their own signature.....we're in an age where the testers are lagging behind and all top athletes are at it and so the Biological Passport really is the only way to set a fair and level playing field from a competitive point of view. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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