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[Seagull 553]

19 minutes ago, WILF said:

I’m a pretty simple bloke mate (as I’m sure many will vouch for ! lol) and I like simple little moments if that makes sense.

I was born and brought up round there and I just like the place, I wouldn’t want to live there but it’s nice to visit…..took my wife there for our first ever day out 30 years ago, I was a bit lighter in them days ! lol 

Like a young Rodney Trotter! Lol

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21 minutes ago, WILF said:

I’m a pretty simple bloke mate (as I’m sure many will vouch for ! lol) and I like simple little moments if that makes sense.

I was born and brought up round there and I just like the place, I wouldn’t want to live there but it’s nice to visit…..took my wife there for our first ever day out 30 years ago, I was a bit lighter in them days ! lol 

Cracking mate, tbe simple things are always the best, no doubting that...

Nice pic mate 

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14 hours ago, Seagull said:

Like a young Rodney Trotter! Lol

Ffs I missed it lol 

You hard a cracking day by the sound of it  wilf 

[Seagull 553]

5 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Ffs I missed it lol 

You hard a cracking day by the sound of it  wilf 

Perfect legs for fleeing.....lol

[jukel123 9,367]

15 hours ago, Borr said:

Cheers , but in my world I'm not , plus my eyes have gone to shit along with my confidence to travel the country doing weld tests, it's a young guys game , but I can stick metal together, also my supervisor who is a kid mind , blows smoke up my ass as you put it because many in my game are bloody hopeless, I hope to bring on a youngster in a few years so the Germans and poles don't think we're all feck wits...We've had multiple generations of useless wankers bringing on youngsters it's no wonder we can't manage up UK jobs . Anyway I've some rusty box to grind , pics to follow....

 

Bringing on youngsters is a tough gig. I had a job working with lads in a behaviour unit in a school. I busted a gut trying to help them but it was very difficult. They had had horrendous family lives and were already into drugs as a way out.

I take my hat off to anybody teaching youngsters. It's a tough profession.

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5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Bringing on youngsters is a tough gig. I had a job working with lads in a behaviour unit in a school. I busted a gut trying to help them but it was very difficult. They had had horrendous family lives and were already into drugs as a way out.

I take my hat off to anybody teaching youngsters. It's a tough profession.

Nah, I can imagine, I didn't mean in an educational environment, I certainly couldn't deal with a behaviour unit. I did a career day in the kids primary school and found that difficult public speaking isn't my forte, thankfully the bits and pieces I brought in drew questions for me to answer and I tried to give a brief insight into the trade. I only meant in the form of an apprentice and then they'd have to have a good work ethic or they'd be gone, so isn't most likely ....well done on giving those kids a shot sometimes it can just give them an option they'd never have thought of on their own....

[Seagull 553]

Just now, Borr said:

 

Nah, I can imagine, I didn't mean in an educational environment, I certainly couldn't deal with a behaviour unit. I did a career day in the kids primary school and found that difficult public speaking isn't my forte, thankfully the bits and pieces I brought in drew questions for me to answer and I tried to give a brief insight into the trade. I only meant in the form of an apprentice and then they'd have to have a good work ethic or they'd be gone, so isn't most likely ....well done on giving those kids a shot sometimes it can just give them an option they'd never have thought of on their own....

I think the apprentice system is all wrong. My brother is a bricklayer and on price, on what planet would he put in the time and effort to babysit a young stranger when time is money? I imagine it's not the only trade with those sorts of problems.

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2 minutes ago, Seagull said:

I think the apprentice system is all wrong. My brother is a bricklayer and on price, on what planet would he put in the time and effort to babysit a young stranger when time is money? I imagine it's not the only trade with those sorts of problems.

Apprenticeship system works for companies , obviously not gonna work for a subby on price, but if they want to build the house numbers they are talking about then they'll need to train up youngsters. Apprentices provide cheap labour , and will in time fill some of the skill shortages . Building industry seems far more reliant on foreign labour than engineering and tbh engineering in certain sectors has gone all in on recruiting apprentices. 

[Borr 7,734]

If the main contractors insisted on an apprenticeship per brickie gang then everyone is on the same deal...

[jukel123 9,367]

1 minute ago, Borr said:

Apprenticeship system works for companies , obviously not gonna work for a subby on price, but if they want to build the house numbers they are talking about then they'll need to train up youngsters. Apprentices provide cheap labour , and will in time fill some of the skill shortages . Building industry seems far more reliant on foreign labour than engineering and tbh engineering in certain sectors has gone all in on recruiting apprentices. 

We should value our building workers more. They do in Germany and other countries. We should value our carers more as well. There's something wrong that we have to import workers in those key sectors.

[Seagull 553]

5 minutes ago, Borr said:

If the main contractors insisted on an apprenticeship per brickie gang then everyone is on the same deal...

Trouble is, who's going to work for day rate in today's climate?

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2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

We should value our building workers more. They do in Germany and other countries. We should value our carers more as well. There's something wrong that we have to import workers in those key sectors.

Most of Europe imports builders and carers and Germany's care system is built on imported labour.

[jukel123 9,367]

3 minutes ago, Borr said:

Most of Europe imports builders and carers and Germany's care system is built on imported labour.

Fair. I didn't know that. Something wrong throughout Europe then.

In Germany when kids are separated as being either academic or technical in their abilities, there isn't the feeling that academia is so superior to technical.

Manual trades are treated with more respect. I've spoken to many guys from truckers to brickies who say they are treated much better in Germany.

[Borr 7,734]

1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

Fair. I didn't know that. Something wrong throughout Europe then.

In Germany when kids are separated as being either academic or technical in their abilities, there isn't the feeling that academia is so superior to technical.

Manual trades are treated with more respect. I've spoken to many guys from truckers to brickies who say they are treated much better in Germany.

Yep I agree , the UK is screwed, whether a trucker with nowhere to stop , or British guys having to compete with Eastern European prices , if I were working away now I'd say accomodation is ridiculous, some hotels have illegals in also busy expensive time ATM but some of the best paid jobs in my game become mediocre once the digs come out of it. If you can find anywhere in the first place in august lol. Some of the foreign guys will happily sleep in the back of a van , it's not for me though , it just continues the race to the bottom no wonder big business loves them , site conditions have all but gone

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Could it be a mixture of years ago when people went to do a trade they usually worked with family, father or uncle would take a young lad on and everyone knew the story and got on abit better. Instead of getting a lad at 16 now you’re getting a chap of 20 who knows it all already and just isn’t worth the agro? The value of a trade has definitely been undersold the last 10/15 years. Some chaps are happier shovel into a mixer for £100 a day than put the head down for a few years and get the reward at the end