Genology & ancestry

[Seagull 387]

6 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Yea but the bible says other wise, we were created in the garden of eden, therefor iraq not wogville in sub saharan africa

Still half our till Sunday school mate....

[harryshounds 1,379]

2 minutes ago, Seagull said:

I don't think it means that, it doesn't mean that we all descend from just the one woman, Mitochondrial Eve isn't the only ancestor of modern humans, she's just the most recent common ancestor of everyone's maternal line. All the other people of that time also passed their genes, just not unbroken on the maternal side. It's basically a theory which traces the most recent unbroken maternal ancestor.

I get ya. I thought it meant everyone on the planet was related to Eve.

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1 minute ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Well i believe in the bible, thats what it says in there

Let's try and keep fiction out of this mate.

[Lenmcharristar 10,269]

Just now, Seagull said:

Still half our till Sunday school mate....

Oh yes a big banger lol

[Lenmcharristar 10,269]

Just now, Seagull said:

Let's try and keep fiction out of this mate.

Dont you ruin mushrooms thread or your reincarnation will end up happening again, which it says ye must be born again, you have how many times on here? 20

[Seagull 387]

Just now, harryshounds said:

I get ya. I thought it meant everyone on the planet was related to Eve.

We are mate, but it's just a theory, what she is, is the most recent common ancestor to us all on the maternal line. Mitochondrial DNA is only passed on through mother to daughter and so on, etc. So when we trace this one single line back in time though mother's only, you eventually reach one woman from whom everyone alive today inherited their DNA. 

[harryshounds 1,379]

6 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Well i believe in the bible, thats what it says in there

Same question applies! 

[Lenmcharristar 10,269]

2 minutes ago, harryshounds said:

Same question applies! 

Well look at what the bible says, its an historical document, also tells how we spread out after the global flood and it shows there was a bottleneck in our dna thousands of tears ago around the time of the noahs flood aka the younger dryas period, therefor noah had a direct line back to adam and his sons are whom we all decend from too

[harryshounds 1,379]

7 minutes ago, Seagull said:

We are mate, but it's just a theory, what she is, is the most recent common ancestor to us all on the maternal line. Mitochondrial DNA is only passed on through mother to daughter and so on, etc. So when we trace this one single line back in time though mother's only, you eventually reach one woman from whom everyone alive today inherited their DNA. 

We're all animal people, know but about breeding n genetics etc....We know without out crossing breeds become defunct. There must have been our crosses for all the different types of people around the world to evolve in the different ways we did? Probably all our mitochondrial DNA can be traced to Eve but there must have been new genes inserted into the pool to allow healthy population growth???

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1 minute ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Well look at what the bible says, its an historical document, also tells how we spread out after the global flood and it shows there was a bottleneck in our dna thousands of tears ago around the time of the noahs flood aka the younger dryas period, therefor noah had a direct line back to adam and his sons are whom we all decend from too

I don't believe in the Bible or any other organized religion so unfortunately we're on different elevations.

[WILF 49,729]

I believe there is something innate in people to feel a connection to their place and their history…..sounds a bit hokey, but maybe it’s a call from a cellular level ? I don’t know and I dont profess to…..but I believe it.

I know some lads have lived abroad for many years, I have only lived outside my own country for 10 but I still see images of England on the telly and I still think “that’s home” and it’s moves me in some way.

I have a distinct feeling that this where I live is not my land and can never be.

Sounds a bit twee and maybe it can be solely attributed to social factors, again I don’t know, but I know I feel connected to my homeland.

I personally think there has to be something innate in that because if we are just all solitary sentient beings able to adjust and learn to fit our environment then surely there would be no such feelings ?

Again, something I just don’t know…..

Something more than curiosity must cause us to want to know who we are and where we comes from ? 

[Lenmcharristar 10,269]

Just now, harryshounds said:

We're all animal people, know but about breeding n genetics etc....We know without our cross breeds become defunct. There must have been our crosses for all the different types of people around the world to evolve in the different ways we did? Probably all our mitochondrial DNA can be traced to Eve but there must have been new genes inserted into the pool to allow healthy population growth???

Well also look at the differences in the races around the world, there is differences genetically between them, maybe with different types of hominid in them apparently we have neanderthal, and the sherpas etc have denisovan dna and the black africans dont have either

[Seagull 387]

To get a better grasp, imagine your family tree with millions of branches, it's like highlighting the branches that strictly go from mother to daughter. Every time a woman had no daughter or her daughters line ended, that branch is gone. After enough generations there would only be one remaining branch left that stays connected to everyone alive today. The person left at the root is Mitochondrial Eve.

Edited 17 hours ago by Seagull

[Lenmcharristar 10,269]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

I believe there is something innate in people to feel a connection to their place and their history…..sounds a bit hokey, but maybe it’s a call from a cellular level ? I don’t know and I dont profess to…..but I believe it.

I know some lads have lived abroad for many years, I have only lived outside my own country for 10 but I still see images of England on the telly and I still think “that’s home” and it’s moves me in some way.

I have a distinct feeling that this where I live is not my land and can never be.

Sounds a bit twee and maybe it can be solely attributed to social factors, again I don’t know, but I know I feel connected to my homeland.

I personally think there has to be something innate in that because if we are just all solitary sentient beings able to adjust and learn to fit our environment then surely there would be no such feelings ?

Again, something I just don’t know…..

Something more than curiosity must cause us to want to know who we are and where we comes from ? 

Its where your soul came into being when you were conceived and and then born, its spiritual

[WILF 49,729]

1 minute ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Its where your soul came into being when you were conceived and and then born, its spiritual

I like that mate, I won’t forget that one