Seagull 463 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 See the Southport stabber, his parents arrived here well before the massive rise in boat crossings, their asylum applications were accepted, their son was born over here and the rest is tragic history. How can you vet for that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,652 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 Just now, Seagull said: See the Southport stabber, his parents arrived here well before the massive rise in boat crossings, their asylum applications were accepted, their son was born over here and the rest is tragic history. How can you vet for that? You can’t, just like you can’t conflate LEGAL immigration with ILLEGAL immigration . As I said, I think legal immigration is far to high, but at least we have a good idea who they are and WE let them in. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 463 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, chartpolski said: You can’t, just like you can’t conflate LEGAL immigration with ILLEGAL immigration . As I said, I think legal immigration is far to high, but at least we have a good idea who they are and WE let them in. Cheers. Technically they aren't illegal providing they hand themselves in to the authorities once they arrive, and then they will have to put in an asylum application which I image entails vetting about who they are? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 27,652 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 I’m not really sure what you are saying, or if it’s just your usual modus operandi of looking for a bite, mate ! LOL ! I’ve got to go and see to the poultry and dogs, but let’s put it this way; If I had to , theoretically, accept an immigrant, I’d far rather it was one who went through the system and was accepted, than one who turned up on boat without any means of identification! Cheers. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 463 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 Just now, chartpolski said: I’m not really sure what you are saying, or if it’s just your usual modus operandi of looking for a bite, mate ! LOL ! I’ve got to go and see to the poultry and dogs, but let’s put it this way; If I had to , theoretically, accept an immigrant, I’d far rather it was one who went through the system and was accepted, than one who turned up on boat without any means of identification! Cheers. I'm saying they will have to be ID checked once they apply for asylum, if not their claim will be rejected, so, in the end it doesn't really make much difference does it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 10,273 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 28 minutes ago, Seagull said: See the Southport stabber, his parents arrived here well before the massive rise in boat crossings, their asylum applications were accepted, their son was born over here and the rest is tragic history. How can you vet for that? In that case it was monkey see, monkey do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 463 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: In that case it was monkey see, monkey do There we have it, no amount of vetting would have prevented that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,777 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 25 minutes ago, Seagull said: I'm saying they will have to be ID checked once they apply for asylum, if not their claim will be rejected, so, in the end it doesn't really make much difference does it? It's does mate,because the illegal ones can an do lie through there teeth about there age,were there from,an there name,so nothing they say can be verified,they can lie about all thee above,an if there wanted in another country,so yes it does make a difference,if your legit an come legally you can be checked if your wanted,but as you say some commit when they land but still rather have a legal than illegal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,777 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 34 minutes ago, Seagull said: I'm saying they will have to be ID checked once they apply for asylum, if not their claim will be rejected, so, in the end it doesn't really make much difference does it? But they lie through there teeth as seen in the past,about there age,were there from etc so they can get around that type of vetting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,777 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 19 minutes ago, Seagull said: There we have it, no amount of vetting would have prevented that. Of course not,that's not the point mate,were talking of people landing here illegally,he was born here,different circumstances all together Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 463 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 7 minutes ago, Francie, said: But they lie through there teeth as seen in the past,about there age,were there from etc so they can get around that type of vetting. Can they, how do you know this? I should imagine they would need proof of a very convincing case for their application to be accepted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,777 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 Just now, Seagull said: Can they, how do you know this? I should imagine they would need proof of a very convincing case for their application to be accepted. Over 95percent of illegals have no I'd,passport etc so how can the gov verify what there saying? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,777 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 4 minutes ago, Seagull said: Can they, how do you know this? I should imagine they would need proof of a very convincing case for their application to be accepted. An claims last for years,so the illegal is let out to roam while the process is ongoing. What about all the ejits a few years ago who said they were teens,but were fully grown men ffs lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seagull 463 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 3 minutes ago, Francie, said: An claims last for years,so the illegal is let out to roam while the process is ongoing. What about all the ejits a few years ago who said they were teens,but were fully grown men ffs lol Again, does it really make a difference seeing as the vast majority have no known criminal past to begin with, in fact most UK terrorists are homegrown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,052 Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: My sons wife is Saudi, their son is a British citizen and passport holder. When she applied for a visit visa to come and see us she had to provide bank statements to show she had sufficient means, a return ticket, a letter from her employer saying she would be returning to work after her visit, a letter from my wife and myself saying she would be staying with us and we would be responsible for her and she paid the equivalent of £1,000 for a ten year multiple visit visa. Illegal immigrants provide not one iota of proof who they are or where they are from. Cheers. Same for my mrs, she's from Honduras and lives in Spain with full residency, just not a Spanish passport (yet). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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